NJWG CAC

Started by footballrun21, August 22, 2005, 02:51:29 AM

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footballrun21

I'm just comming into the NJ Wing CAC as an alternate representative for my squadron.  Anyone have some tips or advice for me?
C/2d Lt. Stephen Pettit, CAP
New Jersey Wing

MIKE

#1
If you are the alternate... Just sit there and be quiet... Observe how things are done, as you may need to fill in for the primary rep or become one yourself at some point.

If you wanted to make yourself useful, you could take notes for the primary rep, so that you both can brief the squadron on the events of the meeting when you return to your unit.
Mike Johnston

Pylon

Welcome to the wonderful world of CAC.  Don't become frustrated if at first you don't understand things, or if it seems like sometimes the meetings go nowhere.  CAC's will vary from board to board, and there are some worthwhile ones out there.

Also, the updated CAPP for CAC's has changed the title of "alternative representative" to "assistant representative."  You should ensure that you are properly addressed as the assistant rep.  The term alternate is obsolete.

Also, don't feel afraid to ask us questions here, about CAC in general, about parliamentary procedure, about how a good CAC ought to operate, etc.  There are a good deal of cadets and Seniors with experience in CAC, myself included.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

footballrun21

the shoulder cord and ribbon are only for the primary right?
C/2d Lt. Stephen Pettit, CAP
New Jersey Wing

Matt

#4
The shoulder cord is for the primary.  The ribbon, I'm not sure on how your wing awards it, here we are awarded it at the end of our term (1 Year) by the wing director of Cadet Programs (WICP).  Check with you Dir. CP and see what they say.  The shoulder cord is warn by the primary, however, the ribbon is AWARDED, so check on when your wing awards it (please see Pylons' Post; edited accordingly), be it before or after your term.

Matt
<a href=mailto:mkopp@ncr.cap.gov> Matthew Kopp</a>, Maj, CAP
Director of Information Technology
<a href=https://www.ncrcap.us.org> North Central Region</a>

Pylon

Quote from: footballrun21 on August 22, 2005, 06:35:09 PM
the shoulder cord and ribbon are only for the primary right?

Quote from: footballrun21 on August 22, 2005, 06:35:09 PM
the shoulder cord and ribbon are only for the primary right?

The shoulder cord is only for the primary, correct.  Reference CAPR 52-16, and CAPM 39-1.

Quote from: CAPM 39-1, Table 1-3, Item 3.
...all primary members of Cadet Advisory Councils will wear gold at the National
level, blue at region level, and red at wing level. (See CAPR 52-16, CAP
Cadet Program Management.)

The ribbon is also for the primary rep, as well.  Reference CAPR 39-3, page 8, item j.

Quote from: CAPR 39-3, Page 8
j. Cadet Advisory Council Ribbon. Awarded to all primary members of each cadet advisory council. The ribbon with appropriate device as indicated below is a permanent cadet activity award. Additionally, a shoulder cord is worn as a means of identifying current CAC members; however, it is worn only during the term of
office.

It is not dependent on how your Wing awards it, at least as far as who gets it.  Your Wing may opt to give it to you after the term of office is complete with satisfactory performance, or your Wing may authorize you for it immediately upon appointment to your office.  That part does depend.

Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Pace

Quote from: Pylon on August 22, 2005, 06:46:14 PM
Your Wing may opt to give it to you after the term of office is complete with satisfactory performance, or your Wing may authorize you for it immediately upon appointment to your office.  That part does depend.

Check CAPR 52-16 3-8.  The first sentence says "All primary representatives of each CAC are authorized to wear the CAC ribbon with appropriate device upon satisfactorily completing their terms of office (see Figure 3-1)."
(emphasis added)
Lt Col, CAP

Pylon

Quote from: dcpacemaker on August 22, 2005, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: Pylon on August 22, 2005, 06:46:14 PM
Your Wing may opt to give it to you after the term of office is complete with satisfactory performance, or your Wing may authorize you for it immediately upon appointment to your office.  That part does depend.

Check CAPR 52-16 3-8.  The first sentence says "All primary representatives of each CAC are authorized to wear the CAC ribbon with appropriate device upon satisfactorily completing their terms of office (see Figure 3-1)."
(emphasis added)

Man!  Why can't they get all the facts about one ribbon in one place!   :P  ;D

You'd think that would be an essential sentence to have in the CAPR 39-3 for the qualifications and award of the Cadet Advisory Council ribbon.

No wonder it's so hard to new people to figure even the simplest thing out.   ::) :D
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Pace

Quote from: Pylon on August 23, 2005, 01:28:12 AM
Man!  Why can't they get all the facts about one ribbon in one place!   :P  ;D

You'd think that would be an essential sentence to have in the CAPR 39-3 for the qualifications and award of the Cadet Advisory Council ribbon.

No wonder it's so hard to new people to figure even the simplest thing out.   ::) :D
You ain't kidding about that!!  It sucks when you have to pull info from different regs/manuals just for one medal or ribbon.  Before the new 39-1, I had the same issue with JROTC vs ROTC ribbons.
Lt Col, CAP