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Started by mikeylikey, June 29, 2007, 04:41:27 PM

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mikeylikey

Has anyone sent a uniform change request up their chain of command to allow the wearing of the tan boots with the bdu's yet?  In about 3 months AAFES will begin to stop carrying black boots altogether.  Just saw the notice posted at the MCSS. 
If not the tan.....perhaps the new green ones the AF is pushing with the ABU. 

I know DRMO will have black boots in large amounts....but do we really want to wear someone else's boots?  There will always be black boots available commercially.....but lets open up more options for the members!
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LtCol White

I would guess that USAF will say Green since the have control over the BDU's. They already have a policy of no tan boots for USAF personnel.
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capchiro

Having spoken to an Air Force active duty major yesterday, the woodland camo is still utilized as well as the black boots for active duty, so I don't think we will be needing the tan boots anytime soon.  And wouldn't they look lovely with the BBDU's??
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LtCol White

Not to mentiong that there is no shortage of suppliers for the black boots as well. AAFES isn't the only retailer
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Eclipse

Yes, I was in Atlanta this week and saw a LOT of Army personnel in the area, especially the airport, including people in woodland camo, same with up at Great Lakes.

I know I have never purchased a pair of boots through MCSS or been issued a pair, and neither have most of the people my way.

Since most of the world, police, fire and similar agencies still wear boots that need polish, I don't think we need to worry about availability.

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MIKE

Cop boots aren't the same though...  It's getting harder to find the cheaper black ICBs.
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Eclipse

Agreed, but a lot of swat teams etc., wear the military boots, and so do lots of countries, still...

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Pumbaa

Just got me some black combats from sportsmansguide for $17...  I also like the rockey tacticals...

Once you go black you never turn back!  Plenty of good sources for ages to come...

tribalelder

Quote from: capchiro on June 29, 2007, 04:58:24 PM
...  And wouldn't they look lovely with the BBDU's??

The reason I wear BBDU is so I don't have to wear boots.
I can even wear my  velcro-closure sneakers.
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LtCol White

There are lots of LE boots that look exactly like infantry boots.
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Hawk200

Quote from: mikeylikey on June 29, 2007, 04:41:27 PM
In about 3 months AAFES will begin to stop carrying black boots altogether.  Just saw the notice posted at the MCSS. 

All MCSS or just the Army ones? The Air Force is still going to be wearing BDU's for a little while, it's awful soon to remove availability for some of the components.

LtCol White

I spoke to the manager at MCCS at Barskdale said they will continue to carry all items until they are no longer available in the AAFES supply chain system. There is also talk about keeping the black boots around for aircraft maintenance folks because the new green boots are suede and the black grease ruins them with permanent stains and makes them unwearable in uniform. At $114.00 a pair, airman can't afford to replace boots weekly. There has also not been a decision on the new boots with flight suits for USAF. Not all a/c's wear steel toe flight boots. Many wear standard ICB's.

So, black boots may not disappear completely from the USAF inventory.
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Stonewall

OD Green Jungle boots were supposed to go away a long time ago, like early to mid-09s, but I still see Navy and Air Force personnel wearing them daily.  Of course, they got them from a commercial distributor, but they're being worn nonetheless.  There are some CAP supply sheds and closets that still have old fatigues in them from the late '80s.  Something tells me we ain't gonna run out of a source for black combat boots anytime soon. 

Mandatory wear date for ABUs is 2011.  That's 3 1/2 years from now.  The Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard still issue black combat boots at this time.  As long as there is a mass need for combat boots, we'll be able to find them fairly easily. 

In CAP, it'll be the one over zealous member who would rather strap on some sort of tan boots vs black combat boots to be different and look (in his mind) high speed  rather than spend an extra minute tracking down some boots that meet CAP regs.
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LtCol White

Have to agree there
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IceNine

again there are going to be suppliers for the "military boots".  But where does it prescribe how the boot will look other than black and serviceable?  I haven't seen a dictate saying we can't wear Bates for example.
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Eclipse

There aren't any - anything black and high, including jungle boots, are acceptable.

I have a pair of very comfortable bates that I wear on occasion in addition to my shiny jump boots, in fact a lot of members wear bates because they are cheap, easy to find and comfortable.

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LtCol White

They're available almost anywhere. Most sporting goods stores carry the boots as well as police supply and of course, army surplus.
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Admiral, Great Navy of the State of Nebraska

Diplomacy - The ability to tell someone to "Go to hell" and have them look forward to making the trip.

afgeo4

Quote from: LtCol White on June 29, 2007, 04:47:58 PM
I would guess that USAF will say Green since the have control over the BDU's. They already have a policy of no tan boots for USAF personnel.

Sir, I believe the current uniform reg regarding the ABU states that wear of desert tan boots is authorized with the ABU uniform until the green boots are distributed for purchase. It also allows airmen to wear the same boots with the ABU and DCU while deployed (current non-combat airmen receive 2 sets of each for deployment.)
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RiverAux

Why in the world would anyone want to wear tan boots with a green uniform?  Ridiculous.

There isn't a boot requirement for the BBDU?  That seems a bit odd.

Eclipse

Quote from: RiverAux on June 30, 2007, 02:53:08 AM
There isn't a boot requirement for the BBDU?  That seems a bit odd.

Nope, as ridiculous as it seems, you can wear street shoes and non blousing...

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