If you were a gambling man...

Started by Panache, May 20, 2014, 09:42:54 AM

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Do you think the new 39-1 will be released before 01 June 2014?

Yes. I have faith.
12 (17.1%)
No. It won't happen.
41 (58.6%)
Kinda. It'll be another draft version released for comments.
7 (10%)
I hope not, as that is one of the pre-ordained signs of the Apocalypse.
10 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 69

Voting closed: May 31, 2014, 09:42:54 AM

Panache


Angus

Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
(or maybe not...)

^^^ this is the most likely. Occam's Razor and all.

Or Murphy's Law.

Right now you could even say we have a case Schrodinger's CAPM39-1.  Until it comes out we may have changes and we may have no changes.
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JeffDG

Quote from: Angus on May 21, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
(or maybe not...)

^^^ this is the most likely. Occam's Razor and all.

Or Murphy's Law.

Right now you could even say we have a case Schrodinger's CAPM39-1.  Until it comes out we may have changes and we may have no changes.
So 39-1 exists in a superposition of multiple states?

Garibaldi

Quote from: JeffDG on May 21, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: Angus on May 21, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
(or maybe not...)

^^^ this is the most likely. Occam's Razor and all.

Or Murphy's Law.

Right now you could even say we have a case Schrodinger's CAPM39-1.  Until it comes out we may have changes and we may have no changes.
So 39-1 exists in a superposition of multiple states?

Grrr...this thread is both alive and dead.
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Panache

Quote from: Garibaldi on May 21, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on May 21, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: Angus on May 21, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
(or maybe not...)

^^^ this is the most likely. Occam's Razor and all.

Or Murphy's Law.

Right now you could even say we have a case Schrodinger's CAPM39-1.  Until it comes out we may have changes and we may have no changes.
So 39-1 exists in a superposition of multiple states?

Grrr...this thread is both alive and dead.

My thread has gone quantum!

JeffDG

Quote from: Garibaldi on May 21, 2014, 02:56:49 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on May 21, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
Quote from: Angus on May 21, 2014, 02:45:15 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 02:07:48 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 21, 2014, 01:52:13 PM
(or maybe not...)

^^^ this is the most likely. Occam's Razor and all.

Or Murphy's Law.

Right now you could even say we have a case Schrodinger's CAPM39-1.  Until it comes out we may have changes and we may have no changes.
So 39-1 exists in a superposition of multiple states?

Grrr...this thread is both alive and dead.
Not anymore, it's been observed.

LSThiker


The CyBorg is destroyed

Quote from: NIN on May 20, 2014, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: Panache on May 20, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
As we're more than halfway through May, and (as of the time of this posting) the new 39-1 hasn't been released by NHQ yet (despite unofficially having a target month of May 2014), do you think it will be released before the month is up?

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ColonelJack

Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 06:58:51 PM
I love that wooshing sound as things go sailing over everybody's heads

When things go that high in the sky ... they should have flight attendants on them.

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NIN

Quote from: ColonelJack on May 22, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
When things go that high in the sky ... they should have flight attendants on them.

And conform to RVSM..
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Panache

Quote from: NIN on May 21, 2014, 11:14:49 AM
Not much to tell really. Even though most/all of what went into the uniform manual has been seen and approved by CAP-USAF ( at least as far as USAF style uniforms ) as OK , there have been some changes in the interim based on the feedback from the membership.

Are you at liberty to tell us (or even hint) at to what these changes are?

NIN

Quote from: Panache on May 22, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
Are you at liberty to tell us (or even hint) at to what these changes are?

I don't think I have a canonical list of the post-member comment changes.  I do know that a couple were added (Circled US for NCOs, embroidered CAP emblem on blue windbreaker like the USAF, tweaks to the National Staff Badge) before it went to CAP-USAF, but I don't know about all the 20-ish suggested changes that came about after the comment period.

I've only really heard about a few thru casual conversation (remove cutouts from field jacket epaulets, for example).

Guess I'm as in the dark as anybody on this until it comes out.




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Angus

Quote from: NIN on May 22, 2014, 04:13:34 PM
Quote from: Panache on May 22, 2014, 01:27:20 PM
Are you at liberty to tell us (or even hint) at to what these changes are?

I don't think I have a canonical list of the post-member comment changes.  I do know that a couple were added (Circled US for NCOs, embroidered CAP emblem on blue windbreaker like the USAF, tweaks to the National Staff Badge) before it went to CAP-USAF, but I don't know about all the 20-ish suggested changes that came about after the comment period.

I've only really heard about a few thru casual conversation (remove cutouts from field jacket epaulets, for example).

Guess I'm as in the dark as anybody on this until it comes out.

From anything you've heard or seen any change with the Aeronautical ratings on the Distinctive Field Uniform?  The whole light blue patch thing doesn't sound like it will look that great. 
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Director Education & Training MAWG 
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NIN

Quote from: Angus on May 22, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
From anything you've heard or seen any change with the Aeronautical ratings on the Distinctive Field Uniform?  The whole light blue patch thing doesn't sound like it will look that great.

Honestly don't recall.  I know when ABUs was in the mix, the consideration was for dark blue tapes on both ABU & BluDUs (lol), but those went away when ABUs were removed from the mix.  Since distinctive field uniform is not really something I own, I didn't pay close attention when I read that part!

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Panache

Quote from: NIN on May 22, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
Quote from: Angus on May 22, 2014, 05:34:08 PM
From anything you've heard or seen any change with the Aeronautical ratings on the Distinctive Field Uniform?  The whole light blue patch thing doesn't sound like it will look that great.

Honestly don't recall.  I know when ABUs was in the mix, the consideration was for dark blue tapes on both ABU & BluDUs (lol), but those went away when ABUs were removed from the mix. 

Dang it!

Panache

Quote from: NIN on May 22, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
I know when ABUs was in the mix, the consideration was for dark blue tapes on both ABU & BluDUs (lol), but those went away when ABUs were removed from the mix.

The more I think about this, the more aggravated I get.

Okay, fine, they insist we continue to wear that butt-ugly white shirt that nobody likes.  They took away the authorization to wear the flight cap with the blue flight suit and made no attempt to resolve our lack of headgear with the aviator shirt outfit (and, no, the baseball cap doesn't count as it's wildly inappropriate with that outfit).  But at least we could wear navy blue tapes and insignia with the BBDUs, so the entire "walking billboard" effect would be lessened.  At the very least, we would look sharp in the BBDUs.

Well, we couldn't have that, could we?

So they apparently took the time and effort to take that out once ABUs weren't in the future.  But that's okay, because they tweaked the National Staff Badge!  And added circles to the US insignia on the USAF-style coats for the handful of NCOs that we have!  And got rid of those bothersome CAP cutouts on BDU field jackets!  And finally, finally, ended our long national nightmare and got embroidery on the USAF-style windbreaker.

But let's make sure we get one final dig into the those fat and furries.

I am now convinced that, present company excepted, the attitude of The Powers That Be towards the "Distinctive Corporate Uniform" members is, at best, passive-aggressive, if not outright hostile. 

Sorry, but I'm growing weary of donating my time, energy, and money to an organization that not only considers me a 2nd-class member, but makes sure I don't forget it.  A couple of things in CAP have been irking me as of late, and this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back.

I'm done.  I'm out.  I'll meet my obligations until my membership runs out, but I will not be renewing.

lordmonar

You're quitting over the uniform?   Really?  :o

Thanks for playing.
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