How to get a promotion?

[SuperCAP]

I'm new to CAP (about 4 months or so).  I've completed lvl1 and I'm working on lvl2.  I'm just wondering how I go about the process of promoting my rank above Senior Member?  Somebody mentioned that if you have your pilots license then that can help you get promoted as well.  I'm a CFI/CFII and ATP pilot with about 5,000 hrs.  Who do I contact to start working on a promotion?  Thanks!

[cm42]

Your local professional development officer should be able to assist. You should also consult the regulation (CAPR 35-5).

[AlphaSigOU]

Since you're new to CAP. you get a free pass here before others scream "RTFM!!!"

Completion of Level I and six months time in grade and at least age 21 makes you eligible for duty performance promotion to 2d Lt.

For a mission skills-related promotion, read CAP Regulation 35-5. Be aware that you are expected to contribute those skills to CAP and to continue your professional development. Your squadron's professional development officer should help you get squared away in preparing the paperwork to be submitted for approval through channels. Promotion to an advanced grade is not automatic.

[Critical AOA]

Having your CFI/CFII or ATP after achieving Level 1 qualifies you to be promoted to Captain with command approval.  If you plan to contribute your CFI skills, this should be easily approved. 

[SunDog]

Cool!

You are a mirror image of a new guy we have - it took some paper chasing, but he was Capt in a couple (2? 3?) months, I think. Someone, somewhere, wanted proof of having done 100 hours of dual as a CFI. No idea if that was legit, local push back, or whatever, as it didn't turn out to be an issue for him.

If you want to instruct, get in CLOSE touch with your Wing Stan/Eval. What is published nationally is always "interperted" locally.

Stay patient, keep your name in front of Stan/Eval, and let the wheels turn. It may take a while, bit once over the hump, the "overhead" slims down.

[EMT-83]

The way it's supposed to work, you Form 5 then get promoted. Become a CAP CFI, get promoted again.

[Eclipse]

The way it's supposed to work, you Form 5 then get promoted. Become a CAP CFI, get promoted again.

+1 - Do something CAP that shows your time commitment, etc., then look to be promoted.

[a2capt]

Someone, somewhere, wanted proof of having done 100 hours of dual as a CFI. No idea if that was legit, local push back, or whatever, as it didn't turn out to be an issue for him.

It's either required, in writing, in a regulation or approved supplement, or it's hoops and hurdles.

But you should know if it is, or not. But all the shenanigans you describe on the flight release process makes me believe the latter.

[SunDog]

Someone, somewhere, wanted proof of having done 100 hours of dual as a CFI. No idea if that was legit, local push back, or whatever, as it didn't turn out to be an issue for him.

It's either required, in writing, in a regulation or approved supplement, or it's hoops and hurdles.

But you should know if it is, or not. But all the shenanigans you describe on the flight release process makes me believe the latter.

Oh, no, my bad - I plead ignorance - it might be legit, I just don't know, either way. I'm not a CAP IP, and it wasn't my issue to tackle. Just heard thr conversation, then later heard it was resolved.

[Check Pilot/Tow Pilot]

The way it's supposed to work, you Form 5 then get promoted. Become a CAP CFI, get promoted again.

+1 - Do something CAP that shows your time commitment, etc., then look to be promoted.

+2 Local requirements for Command approval may vary, for our Squadron when you pass your Form 5 and have a CFI I will promote to 1st Lt, become a CAP IP, and I'll recommend you for promotion to Capt.

[SunDog]

Our guy isn't a CAP IP,  but is a Capt.  Not up on the workings - what i heard over the years was 2Lt for private pilot, 1Lt for an instrument rating, Capt for a CFI (or ATP, obviously).

That's what I've seen happen over the last decade or so in my Wing. Nothing about having to be a CAP IP, but I guess it can vary Wing to Wing.

I have noticed pretty much "auto-advanced" grade for other specialities (lawyer, chaplain, etc.) in my Wing, so if it's done for attorney's, CPAs, etc, it would definitley follow it should happen for Pilots with advanced quals.

[Shuman 14]

You get paid more when you get promoted... right? 

[a2capt]

Double your salary!

[SarDragon]

Double your salary!

I thought it was ten times - an order of magnitude. 

[JeffDG]

Double your salary!

I thought it was ten times - an order of magnitude. 

Yep, another zero on the paycheque.

[EMT-83]

Our guy isn't a CAP IP,  but is a Capt.  Not up on the workings - what i heard over the years was 2Lt for private pilot, 1Lt for an instrument rating, Capt for a CFI (or ATP, obviously).

That's what I've seen happen over the last decade or so in my Wing. Nothing about having to be a CAP IP, but I guess it can vary Wing to Wing.

I have noticed pretty much "auto-advanced" grade for other specialities (lawyer, chaplain, etc.) in my Wing, so if it's done for attorney's, CPAs, etc, it would definitley follow it should happen for Pilots with advanced quals.

Not so automatic. There are 3 requirements for a Mission Related Skill promotion:  A) Possess the skill; B) Contribute the skill to CAP; C) Be performing at the level of the grade being promoted to.

People are quick to jump on the first one, and just as quick to ignore the second two. Unfortunately, we have too many instant Captains who don't have a clue about how CAP works.

[Private Investigator]

Our guy isn't a CAP IP,  but is a Capt.  Not up on the workings - what i heard over the years was 2Lt for private pilot, 1Lt for an instrument rating, Capt for a CFI (or ATP, obviously).

That's what I've seen happen over the last decade or so in my Wing. Nothing about having to be a CAP IP, but I guess it can vary Wing to Wing.

I have noticed pretty much "auto-advanced" grade for other specialities (lawyer, chaplain, etc.) in my Wing, so if it's done for attorney's, CPAs, etc, it would definitley follow it should happen for Pilots with advanced quals.

Not so automatic. There are 3 requirements for a Mission Related Skill promotion:  A) Possess the skill; B) Contribute the skill to CAP; C) Be performing at the level of the grade being promoted to.

People are quick to jump on the first one, and just as quick to ignore the second two. Unfortunately, we have too many instant Captains who don't have a clue about how CAP works.

Exactly.  :clap:

[SunDog]

We'll get him in a seminary school ASAP. We already have a lawyer. . .

[Critical AOA]

I'd much rather see a CFI type receive an advanced promotion than a chaplain or lawyer.  At least a CFI has mission skills that are useful at the squadron level.

[Eclipse]

I'd much rather see a CFI type receive an advanced promotion than a chaplain or lawyer.  At least a CFI has mission skills that are useful at the squadron level.

I'm of two minds on "mission skills" promotions - I understand the concept, but until you can provide a "mission skill" you shouldn't
be requesting a promotion.

It takes the average member, especially pilots, 6 months to a year to be of any real value to CAP.