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Anti-CAP group on Myspace

Started by RiverAux, February 25, 2007, 08:50:06 PM

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lordmonar

Quote from: MississippiFlyboy on February 27, 2007, 10:29:04 PM
I read some of the messages on there about Cadets getting in trouble because of things said on myspace and other communications mediums.  Are e-mails/text messages/posts/etc fair game for disciplanary action if they are not CAP related? remember some threads on CS about this kind of stuff and how sharply divided everyone was.  I have to admit if I was a cadet in CAP (i did my WIWAC in AFJROTC) and people were constantly monitoring my online activities I would probably feel angry too.  I realize that CAP is a voluntary activity and you have to adhere to a certain code of conduct to be a cadet.  However, where do we draw the line between someone's private life and their CAP life?  Having said that, I don't usually put CAP as an interest or keyword on online profiles for that very reason and some of these cadets would probably fare better if they didn't have a thousand references to CAP in their myspace pages. 

FYI before I get blasted about using content from this site as the basis for an observation, i have also witnessed this type of activity in my wing with cadets and seniors. 

The question is....if your squadron member (cadet or senior) was standing on the street with a sign bad mouthing CAP, wing, or your squadron to everyone who just walked by....would you just ignore it or do something about it?  On line in a public forum is just the same as standing on a street corner.  If you have something to say...by all means say it, but remember that every action has consequences.
PATRICK M. HARRIS, SMSgt, CAP

SJFedor

Wierd, that group didn't always used to be anti-CAP, and wasn't until not too long ago. That's why it has so many members, because it used to be the Yay-for-CAP group.

Someone said "The current moderator became disenchanted with CAP over a supposed sexual tryst he exposed at the Wing level that he was subsequently chastised for."

Perhaps, but even in a worst scenario, there's at least ONE responsible adult at the wing level that would address it properly. I have a burning feeling that he blew it up into more then it should have been based on his personal feelings, and didn't want to wait for due process, thus his disenchantment with the organization. He might not have been chastised for trying to expose the so called "sexual tryst" at wing level, but rather for the methods he used to "expose" it. There's more then 2 sides to most stories, and I'm sure this one has a very interesting 2nd side that he hasn't told. I have no personal knowledge of it, so I won't comment further.

If I remember correctly, this was the same kid that, a few years back, had pictures of himself holding an airsoft gun with the orange tip painted over in some suggestive poses, including in a CAP uniform or two, as well as claiming to be a part of some special HLS unit in WA Wing.

I cut my grain of salt into tenth's for him.

Steven Fedor, NREMT-P
Master Ambulance Driver
Former Capt, MP, MCPE, MO, MS, GTL, and various other 3-and-4 letter combinations
NESA MAS Instructor, 2008-2010 (#479)

JohnKachenmeister

How come everybody in CAP is involved in sex scandals but me?
Another former CAP officer

JC004

Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on March 02, 2007, 02:27:33 PM
How come everybody in CAP is involved in sex scandals but me?

Cuz you've got enough on your hands with the Anna Nicole thing.   8)  When you get your money, would you mind maybe buying the CAP supply rights from Vanguard?   ;D

DrJbdm

ALL of ya'll are lying dogs...I'm the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.... it looks just like me! However in the interest of not having to go thru paternity tests and embarrass ya'll, we can all split the money. there's enough to go around. Heck i'll even share the videos she and I made!  (just don't tell my wife!)  ;D

JC004

Quote from: DrJbdm on March 28, 2007, 08:10:10 PM
ALL of ya'll are lying dogs...I'm the father of Anna Nicole Smith's baby.... it looks just like me! However in the interest of not having to go thru paternity tests and embarrass ya'll, we can all split the money. there's enough to go around. Heck i'll even share the videos she and I made!  (just don't tell my wife!)  ;D

Your secrets are safe here on the internet.   ;)

LTC_Gadget

As to what one can say under the rules of free speech, and where it collides with slander or libel, only a lawyer can say for sure.  If one is smart, one steers slightly leeward of anything that gets even close to being a question of that kind of intent.  Err on the side of caution, and you won't have to defend yourself at $200/hr, eh?

Regarding ANS, despite rumors to the contrary, I have never been to the Bahamas.  I'm strictly a cool-weather kinda guy.  I was never in a compromising position with her either. The negatives are fakes!!  Even I have my standards, OK!!  ;D  So, the likelihood of any money coming my way from that is very, very, low.  So, instead, I'm buying lottery tickets.  After I win the PowerBall, I'm going to fund a few pet projects to benefit some hard-working, under-funded, under-supported, under-recognized CAP members.  Anyone think we could use a few helicopters for SAR??  :)
John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

Major Carrales

QuoteAs to what one can say under the rules of free speech, and where it collides with slander or libel, only a lawyer can say for sure.

Actually, only a jury can say for sure...and they are as fickle as one can get.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

LTC_Gadget

John Boyd, LtCol, CAP
Mitchell and Earhart unnumbered, yada, yada
The older I get, the more I learn.  The more I learn, the more I find left yet to learn.

Major Carrales

Quote from: LTC_Gadget on March 29, 2007, 03:00:48 AM
Touche'    :D

I actually sat on a jury at the start of this year...let me tell you.  It was the most unusual and intense thing I have ever been a part of.

I puzzle to this day as to how they intended to award a woman free medical for life at the expense of a fast food conglomerate after they had found her totally liable. 
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

RogueLeader

Quote from: Major Carrales on March 29, 2007, 03:08:44 AM
Quote from: LTC_Gadget on March 29, 2007, 03:00:48 AM
Touche'    :D

I actually sat on a jury at the start of this year...let me tell you.  It was the most unusual and intense thing I have ever been a part of.

I puzzle to this day as to how they intended to award a woman free medical for life at the expense of a fast food conglomerate after they had found her totally liable. 
I wonder how they can find a Food Chain liable for anything that the "victim" did. Such as spill coffee on themselves, or choke on a pickle- they are both SUPPOSED to be hot for Pete's sake.
WYWG DP

GRW 3340

Mrs. Lisa Hayden


sparks

only in Corpus Christi, includes peppers.

Major Carrales

Quote from: sparks on March 30, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
only in Corpus Christi, includes peppers.

"Hot pickles" can be found at DAIRY QUEEN, H-E-B and WHAT-A-BURGER...we call them jalepeno (not to be confused with my childhood friend "Holly Pena" or that new PI Dectective Hal Lee Penyo. :P

You can use the juice to etch your name in metal.

Actually, the case took place in a small rural countyseat some miles from Corpus.
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

Mrs. Lisa Hayden

Quote from: sparks on March 30, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
only in Corpus Christi, includes peppers.

Thanks for the info.  I've only been to Houston once due to plane delay.  We were there overnight and the most memorable part of the 12 hour stay was the delicious food.  Texans sure know how to eat!

fyrfitrmedic

Quote from: Major Carrales on March 30, 2007, 04:44:27 PM
Quote from: sparks on March 30, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
only in Corpus Christi, includes peppers.

"Hot pickles" can be found at DAIRY QUEEN, H-E-B and WHAT-A-BURGER...we call them jalepeno (not to be confused with my childhood friend "Holly Pena" or that new PI Dectective Hal Lee Penyo. :P

You can use the juice to etch your name in metal.

The Famous Dave's barbecue chain serves 'hot pickles' with some of its menu items.
MAJ Tony Rowley CAP
Lansdowne PA USA
"The passion of rescue reveals the highest dynamic of the human soul." -- Kurt Hahn

alexalvarez

I love to eat my hamburgers with jalapenos in Corpus Christi.  It is the same fast food place by the bay that Selena use to buy her hamburgers. Or at least I am told she use to go there.
Ch, Lt. Col., Alex Alvarez
Alamo Composite Squadron, Bexar County Squadron, San Antonio, Texas
Group V Chaplain
Mitchell 1967, Earhart 1967, C/ Lt. Col. 1969
Fifty Year Member 2014

Major Carrales

Quote from: alexalvarez on March 31, 2007, 04:44:19 AM
I love to eat my hamburgers with jalapenos in Corpus Christi.  It is the same fast food place by the bay that Selena use to buy her hamburgers. Or at least I am told she use to go there.

Let me know when your coming...on a Tuesday, and I will treat you to a What-a-burger by the Bay!!!
"We have been given the power to change CAP, let's keep the momentum going!"

Major Joe Ely "Sparky" Carrales, CAP
Commander
Coastal Bend Cadet Squadron
SWR-TX-454

JohnKachenmeister

You're up kinda late tonight, aren't you, Joe?
Another former CAP officer

AF0771794MS

I notice that the anti-CAP group on Myspace is gone now.  Very interesting. ::)

I personally did not like the anti-CAP group on Myspace, but I think it's sad that no one except NOTF seems to get it right when reporting the bad about CAP.  The guy in Tennessee is a joke, http://[bannedurl] is a bad site, I could go on and on.

It's time for someone to step up and create a forum that does not bash CAP, but exposes it for what it is (or rather, what it has become).  Someone who does not consider CAP a ponzi-scheme, but doesn't think it's an entirely great organization, either.  A lot of this is because of Maj Gen Pineda.

I am not against CAP, but it is definitely time the folks found out about what's going on in this organization.  The corruption and disrespect to the Air Force is terrible, and it must stop. 

Just my $0.02's worth.