Another new AF uniform?

Started by Walkman, August 10, 2012, 08:58:36 PM

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Quote from: PHall on August 11, 2012, 04:48:29 PM
Did you even bother to read the post above that stated that this is a Restricted Ceremonial Uniform that is only worn by the Chief of Staff and the Command Chief Master Sergeant of the Air Force?

CAP will never, ever wear this uniform.

So what was your rant about?

Of course I read the post.

My point is that very often whenever a variation on a USAF uniform is seen, someone on CT suggests it for CAP.  Not inevitably, but often.  Look at the continuing "ABU's" speculation.

So what was my "rant" about, good sir?  Simply stating an opinion that rather than try to get whatever/any hypothetical new uniform the USAF gets, my opinion would be to simplify things around a uniform that the AF does not wear anymore, which by nature automatically makes it "distinctive."

Do I think it stands a fart's chance in a hurricane?  Of course not.

But it's only an opinion...which is all CT is at the end of the day, a collection of opinions and ideas.
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AngelWings

Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


SarDragon

^^^^^

I would still consider that restricted use.
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AngelWings

Quote from: SarDragon on August 11, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
^^^^^

I would still consider that restricted use.
Restricted? Definately. Only to 2-3 people (I should have added that in to avoid confusion)? No. It's just like cooks wearing their whites, HG/CG wearing their uniform, etc.

SarDragon

Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 07:43:40 PM
The "ceremonial" uniform that the generals were wearing are the same exact thing as the band uniform. Compare to the two and you'll see what I'm talking about.

No, it is NOT exactly the same uniform.

The band uniform was probably the basis for the ceremonial uniform, but the hats are different, and the ceremonial uniform has a belt.
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AngelWings

Quote from: SarDragon on August 11, 2012, 09:52:59 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 07:43:40 PM
The "ceremonial" uniform that the generals were wearing are the same exact thing as the band uniform. Compare to the two and you'll see what I'm talking about.

No, it is NOT exactly the same uniform.

The band uniform was probably the basis for the ceremonial uniform, but the hats are different, and the ceremonial uniform has a belt.
Ok, you got me there. Not the exact same, but basically the same. It's the same tunic and pants, and same placement of insignia. The way the articles and comments I've read made it sound like is that this ceremonial uniform was completely different from any other AF uniform.

SarDragon

Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on August 11, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
^^^^^

I would still consider that restricted use.
Restricted? Definately. Only to 2-3 people (I should have added that in to avoid confusion)? No. It's just like cooks wearing their whites, HG/CG wearing their uniform, etc.

If Airman Schmuckatelli in 13 FS, or 32 CBCS, as examples, doesn't have that uniform as a day-to-day option, then it's a restricted use uniform. the cook and HG uniforms do also fit into that category.
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AngelWings

Quote from: SarDragon on August 11, 2012, 10:12:46 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on August 11, 2012, 09:48:05 PM
^^^^^

I would still consider that restricted use.
Restricted? Definately. Only to 2-3 people (I should have added that in to avoid confusion)? No. It's just like cooks wearing their whites, HG/CG wearing their uniform, etc.

If Airman Schmuckatelli in 13 FS, or 32 CBCS, as examples, doesn't have that uniform as a day-to-day option, then it's a restricted use uniform. the cook and HG uniforms do also fit into that category.
Exactly.

rustyjeeper

Does it really matter? Let's get back on topic.............
So when are we getting ABU's >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D

jks19714

Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)
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As was said on Facebook's Air Force feed, this was a test of a new ceremonial uniform to be used only by the CSAF and CMSAF. A bulletin was posted within Air Force circles saying as much. It was widely panned on Facebook. I wouldn't expect to see it again real soon, anyway, considering the uniform's use.

The departing CSAF replaced a CSAF who was considering uniform changes at a time when there was carelessness in our nuclear weapons operations. The criticism was that the previous CSAF's eyes were off the ball. Then, the irony of a new uniform on Gen Schwartz's last day as CSAF. Just found it interesting.

Marines and sailors will say the Air Force doesn't do choker collars very well.


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ColonelJack

Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

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jimmydeanno

Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right
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PHall

Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right

Uh, how about he's the conductor of the band and he's "conducting"... ::)

jimmydeanno

Quote from: PHall on August 12, 2012, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right

Uh, how about he's the conductor of the band and he's "conducting"... ::)

That's not nearly an interesting enough conspiracy theory.
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RogueLeader

Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 04:57:55 AM
Quote from: PHall on August 12, 2012, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right

Uh, how about he's the conductor of the band and he's "conducting"... ::)

That's not nearly an interesting enough conspiracy theory.

He's a drummer and suddenly lost his cymbals in mid strike.
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spacecommand

Ah, so many meme's can be created from that photo...

AngelWings

Quote from: spacecommand on August 12, 2012, 07:50:21 AM
Ah, so many meme's can be created from that photo...
I think you have a great idea!!!

ColonelJack

Quote from: PHall on August 12, 2012, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right

Uh, how about he's the conductor of the band and he's "conducting"... ::)

Well, of course he is...but that's not nearly as funny.

Jack
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Honorary Admiral, Navy of the Republic of Molossia

Garibaldi

Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 11:30:49 AM
Quote from: PHall on August 12, 2012, 04:32:32 AM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on August 12, 2012, 01:55:09 AM
Quote from: ColonelJack on August 12, 2012, 01:49:30 AM
Quote from: jks19714 on August 11, 2012, 10:57:02 PM
Quote from: AngelWings on August 11, 2012, 09:39:00 PM
Restricted Ceremonial Uniform? I think not...


It looks like someone poured a cup of ice into his shorts!  ::)

Nah ... he's trying to get the Band to do "the wave."

Jack

Maybe they're on the set of The Price is Right

Uh, how about he's the conductor of the band and he's "conducting"... ::)

Well, of course he is...but that's not nearly as funny.

Jack

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