Winter Encampment

[shlebz]

which states have winter encampments, and what would i have to do to apply/be able to go to them? thanks!
do any states near WI have winter encampments?

[JROB]

I know that Texas Wing puts on a great winter encampment.  http://www.texascadet.org

[HGjunkie]

Florida Wing has winter encampments.

[CAPC/officer125]

KSWG is closer and cheaper than the other two mentioned. This year we had to up the price from $100 to $115, but it is still cheaper and will be closer than FLWG or TXWG.
Start looking at kswg.cap.gov around August for applications for basic cadets and ATF cadets. I would start checking there towards the end of this month and into July for staff applications.
If you have any questions about it, feel free to PM me.

C/LtCol Pat Temaat
2010 C/DC
2009 2nd Sq/CC
2007 Alpha Flt/CC
2006 Bravo Flt/Sgt
2005 Basic

[MSG Mac]

KSWG is closer and cheaper than the other two mentioned. This year we had to up the price from $100 to $115, but it is still cheaper and will be closer than FLWG or TXWG.
Start looking at kswg.cap.gov around August for applications for basic cadets and ATF cadets. I would start checking there towards the end of this month and into July for staff applications.
If you have any questions about it, feel free to PM me.

C/LtCol Pat Temaat
2010 C/DC
2009 2nd Sq/CC
2007 Alpha Flt/CC
2006 Bravo Flt/Sgt
2005 Basic

Florida doesn't require cold weather gear, classes on recognizing frostbite and other cold weather hazards. No chance of getting snowed in. Average temperature in December 72 degree high, low of 47 in Jax (Camp Blanding), if the encampment is at Eglin AFB High 70, low 40. 

[HGjunkie]

Florida doesn't require cold weather gear, classes on recognizing frostbite and other cold weather hazards. No chance of getting snowed in. Average temperature in December 72 degree high, low of 47 in Jax (Camp Blanding), if the encampment is at Eglin AFB High 70, low 40.

We've had to have cadets bring cold weather stuff for the past 2 years. It's cold and windy during mornings and evenings.

[SarDragon]

I lived in Orange Park for three years, and there were many winter mornings where there was crunchy grass. That's in the frost range (30s).

[shlebz]

i live in wisconsin, believe me i have plenty of cold weather gear lol

[DC]

i live in wisconsin, believe me i have plenty of cold weather gear lol

So you'll save on checked baggage fees! Winter encampments in Florida are typically held at Tyndall AFB, though Camp Blanding is also possible. Night temperature range will probably be somewhere between 30 and 60 degrees, and it should get up into the 70s during the day.

I went to an SER winter encampment at Tyndall in 2005 and we spent the majority of the week with our sleeves rolled up, I think I wore my M-65 one day out of seven.

[MSG Mac]

I lived in Orange Park for three years, and there were many winter mornings where there was crunchy grass. That's in the frost range (30s).

Crunchy frost that disappears as soon as the sun rises does not have to be shoveled. White stuff that falls from the sky does in great quantities.

[SarDragon]

I was addressing temperatures, not condensed water vapor, in either form. 

[1LtNurseOfficer]

Florida doesn't require cold weather gear, classes on recognizing frostbite and other cold weather hazards. No chance of getting snowed in. Average temperature in December 72 degree high, low of 47 in Jax (Camp Blanding), if the encampment is at Eglin AFB High 70, low 40.

Umm.......... FLWG Winter Encampment (UNIFORM/EQUIPMENT) does require cold weather gear.


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[CAPC/officer125]

Looking at overall cost including flying and the encampment, KSWG is cheapest. It is also the closet to their known environment and in their region. Checked bags may add a little the cost but still KSWG is cheaper. They are a C/2ndLt, therefore they have at least one encampment and should know what and how to pack to get the best experience.
Also, I am sure that FLWG and TXWG usually don't have a problem with getting the correct quantity of staff members. KSWG is in great need of staff applicants due to the growth of the encampment. We have gone from 30-40 total cadets (staff included) to 140 total cadets in 5 years, with at growth from 70 or so to 140 in a year. Anybody coming to KSWG to staff would be a great asset to a wonderful, fun encampment.

[kmbarnes1]

Sorry for the stupid question but I don't want to assume. Is Winter encampment the same as Summer encampment? Same/similar activities, lessons, etc? Do cadets still earn the encampment ribbon? Or are they different in someway (other than when it takes place)?

[CAPC/officer125]

Sorry for the stupid question but I don't want to assume. Is Winter encampment the same as Summer encampment? Same/similar activities, lessons, etc? Do cadets still earn the encampment ribbon? Or are they different in someway (other than when it takes place)?

In KSWG, we do not host a summer encampment. However, everything that is required for it to be called an encampment is completed. In essence, a winter encampment is just a summer encampment at a different time. There are different activities due to weather restrictions (in some places). The lessons are the same (mostly) because there are certain classes that are required for every cadet to take at an encampment. Encampment ribbons are earned just the same.

[nicktavegia]

I'll be applying as STAFF to the Florida Wing Winter Encampment as soon as 'the doors open'.  Just completed ATF (ATS)

[HGjunkie]

I'll be applying as STAFF to the Florida Wing Winter Encampment as soon as 'the doors open'.  Just completed ATF (ATS)

I think the app period will open up in the August/September timeframe.

[Hawk_Girl]

I'll be applying as STAFF to the Florida Wing Winter Encampment as soon as 'the doors open'.  Just completed ATF (ATS)

I think the app period will open up in the August/September timeframe.

Yeah, that is when they normally are. You can keep an eye out for updates at flcadet.com

Good luck and I hope to see you there!

[Capt Hudgins]

Two posts down from this one is information about the KS Winter Encampment.  We are accepting applications now for Command and Cadet Staff.   There will be three advanced training flights offered - Honor Guard, Emergency Services, and NCO Leadership. 

Information about signing up can be found on the KS Wing website - kswg.cap.gov.  If you have questions you can direct them to encampment@kswg.cap.gov.

[nicktavegia]

Kansas is just too far or I'd apply immediately.  I thought about it last year, but my family cannot afford the transportation costs or time off / travel.

[a2capt]

A ride from a neighboring state CAP vehicle headed in that direction is an option, too.

Put the word out .. if a few want to go, everyone apply, both on the staff and basic levels. Then everyone put together to get there.

[shlebz]

Kansas is just too far or I'd apply immediately.  I thought about it last year, but my family cannot afford the transportation costs or time off / travel.

same, plus haveing to not only go down there for the encampment you have to be there for the application selection also

[CAPC/officer125]

Kansas is just too far or I'd apply immediately.  I thought about it last year, but my family cannot afford the transportation costs or time off / travel.

same, plus haveing to not only go down there for the encampment you have to be there for the application selection also

It is worth the time spent. The selection and training activities are over the weekend. The selection is either right before school starts or right after and you could possibly fly out Friday (after school) and back on Sunday. Training may mean missing  part of a day of school on either end, but if you can work transportation shouldn't be a problem. If you really want to go, find other cadets that want to staff a winter encampment and talk to your local pilots and see about flying on a CAP plane. It may be a little troublesome and a small hassle but it is definitely worth it.
Though I completely understand.

[nicktavegia]

I'm home schooled and always have been but there is no way we could afford any flights (to Kansas) and transportation costs to and from the airport. 

[CAPC/officer125]

Knowing my wing the way I do, I know several people that would pick you up at the airport and drive you to WGHQ. There are several squadrons around KCK and Topeka that routinely send cadets on staff to encampment the usually offer to pick up people. Same goes with the squadron in Wichita. And it would be of no cost to you (except for your own snackage if they allowed it).
Really KSWG has some of the nicest people you will meet. We had a cadet come all the way from Ohio to encampment last year and she got 1st class treatment after her luggage got lost.
I am not trying to pressure anyone, but if you are really interested in coming, just let me know and I could hook you up with the proper people so that your stay and travel are as comfortable and affordable as possible. Same goes to anyone.

[nicktavegia]

Thanks Col. Tematt.  I'll speak with my parents about this and check on some airfare to KS.
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I just checked it out.  $800 round trip for EACH trip to Ks.   Even one trip would be a killer. 

[Майор Хаткевич]

Thanks Col. Tematt.  I'll speak with my parents about this and check on some airfare to KS.
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I just checked it out.  $800 round trip for EACH trip to Ks.   Even one trip would be a killer.

Those are some PRICY tickets!

[DakRadz]

Thanks Col. Tematt.  I'll speak with my parents about this and check on some airfare to KS.
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I just checked it out.  $800 round trip for EACH trip to Ks.   Even one trip would be a killer.

From ATL??

I just checked Delta (the most reliable money grubbing ripoffs), and the total price for a round-trip leaving 14OCT-16OCT (training dates) is $192.

Where are you flying from and what caused the huge price??

Unless that's with your parents as well. But still a couple hundred off.

[1LtNurseOfficer]

Just did a quick search from Atlanta (ATL) into Kansas City, MO (MCI) and came up with $328 round trip leaving Atlanta 23Dec11 and returning 03Jan12.

Even coming into Wichita isn't too bad for a change.

There are some decent prices out there.  You just have to search.

[dianetavegia]

Nick misunderstood. The $800 was for both trips: training and encampment.  Almost $700 from Hartsfield to Wichita.
Our family cannot afford the airfare to Kansas.  I'm sure it's a superb encampment, but it's not going to happen. 

Thanks for your assistance, tho.

[DakRadz]

Nick misunderstood. The $800 was for both trips: training and encampment.  Almost $700 from Hartsfield to Wichita.
Our family cannot afford the airfare to Kansas.  I'm sure it's a superb encampment, but it's not going to happen. 

Thanks for your assistance, tho.

That makes much more sense. And obviously that's expensive for anyone (else I'd be going!).

Mostly we're bored and wanted to make sure you weren't getting royally misquoted on airfare

[Capt Hudgins]

We are very understanding of financial situations and travel arrangements at the KS Encampment.  If you still want to come, we could definitely work around you not being able to attend the PIPER staff training, and I am sure we could arrange for somoene to pick you up in Kansas City, MO so it would not be as expensive as a flight to Wichita, KS.

The choices is yours, but we can help make it happen if you are still interested.  Send an e-mail if you have questions to encampment@kswg.cap.gov.

Capt Mark Hudgins
Commandant of Cadets
KS Winter Encampment 2012