What counts as an ES Specialty?

Started by cadetchris, April 05, 2011, 02:02:54 AM

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cadetchris

C/SMSgt
Civil Air Patrol

Eclipse

Not 16 what.

It is not the discretion of the wing, a wing can only make regs tighter, not loosen them.  TMP is not a mission specialty that
qualifies for the ES patch, it is an offshoot of being a mission pilot to allow for non-ES pilots to move airplanes and
people in a mission.  You can't fly actual sorties, other than transport.

It has to have an SQTR, and you have to be fully qualified.

"That Others May Zoom"

sardak

QuoteSo, I know the regulation for the ES patch is you must have GES and at least 1 ES specialty. My question is, what counts as an ES specialty?
Quote from: cadetchris on April 05, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on April 05, 2011, 05:46:36 PM
It almost sounds like if it shows on your 101 with an expiry date, it qualifies...

Can anyone think of any exceptions?

That's what I think. I would like to get some more people's input on this. It seems like what you said, But everyone else says otherwise, so I am divided. ???

Here is the definitive answer to your question.

CAPR 60-3 para. 2-3(f) The following are the approved emergency services specialty qualifications above the GES level.
There are 41 qualifications listed, and IC and GTM only list one of the three levels possible.

Mike

cadetchris

Quote from: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Not 16 what.
Not 16 years old.
Quote from: sardak on April 05, 2011, 11:02:19 PM
QuoteSo, I know the regulation for the ES patch is you must have GES and at least 1 ES specialty. My question is, what counts as an ES specialty?
Quote from: cadetchris on April 05, 2011, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: JeffDG on April 05, 2011, 05:46:36 PM
It almost sounds like if it shows on your 101 with an expiry date, it qualifies...

Can anyone think of any exceptions?

That's what I think. I would like to get some more people's input on this. It seems like what you said, But everyone else says otherwise, so I am divided. ???

Here is the definitive answer to your question.

CAPR 60-3 para. 2-3(f) The following are the approved emergency services specialty qualifications above the GES level.
There are 41 qualifications listed, and IC and GTM only list one of the three levels possible.

Mike
THANK YOU so much for this. This is what I was looking for. Thanks for the help.
C/SMSgt
Civil Air Patrol

davidsinn

Quote from: cadetchris on April 07, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Not 16 what.
Not 16 years old.

You might not be able to go on a real mission but there is no age limit to being a qualified GTM.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

cap235629

Quote from: davidsinn on April 07, 2011, 03:04:32 AM
Quote from: cadetchris on April 07, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Not 16 what.
Not 16 years old.

You might not be able to go on a real mission but there is no age limit to being a qualified GTM.

Is this a new regulation I am unaware of or a local thing?
Bill Hobbs, Major, CAP
Arkansas Certified Emergency Manager
Tabhair 'om póg, is Éireannach mé

davidsinn

Quote from: cap235629 on April 07, 2011, 03:11:50 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on April 07, 2011, 03:04:32 AM
Quote from: cadetchris on April 07, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Not 16 what.
Not 16 years old.

You might not be able to go on a real mission but there is no age limit to being a qualified GTM.

Is this a new regulation I am unaware of or a local thing?

I think it's a wing thing. Some wings restrict the ages that cadets may be utilized on missions.
Former CAP Captain
David Sinn

Fubar

Quote from: cap235629 on April 07, 2011, 03:11:50 AM
Quote from: davidsinn on April 07, 2011, 03:04:32 AM
Quote from: cadetchris on April 07, 2011, 03:03:01 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 05, 2011, 09:23:31 PM
Not 16 what.
Not 16 years old.

You might not be able to go on a real mission but there is no age limit to being a qualified GTM.

Is this a new regulation I am unaware of or a local thing?

It's more of a gentlemen's agreement among GTL's. I've been told there are two reasons 1) Keeps the cadets from seeing anything "unpleasant" that may upset parents later 2) Ground teams often work at the pleasure of state or county SAR leaders who have suggested a van full of kids with one or two adults isn't the kind of help they're looking for (it's unfortunate it sounds like they base their opinion on appearances not performance - but then again, maybe performance is part of the problem).