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 11 
 on: Today at 04:05:52 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by MacGruff
Dang.

I had it wrong.

Oh well. Happens.

Thanks for the clarification.

 12 
 on: Today at 03:33:41 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by wacapgh
CAPR 60-1
7.2. Constitution.
 7.2.1. Allotment of Seats. Commanders may appoint one primary representative and one assistant to serve on the CAC at the next higher echelon.
  7.2.1.1. Region commanders appoint two Phase IV or Spaatz cadets.
  7.2.1.2. Wing commanders appoint two cadet officers.
  7.2.1.3. Composite and cadet squadron commanders appoint two cadet NCOs or officers. If the unit does not have qualified cadets available, the position(s) may remain vacant.

Or -
Squadron commanders may appoint two cadets (NCO or Officer) to Group CAC. If you do not have a Group CAC, then Wing CAC.
The Wing commander may appoint two Cadet Officers to Region CAC. No option for a Cadet NCO at this level.
Region commanders may appoint two Phase IV cadets (C/Major, C/Lt. Colonel) or Cadet Colonels to National CAC

Also, in CAPR 60-1

7.2.6. Double-Service Discouraged. Because the CAC exists to provide cadets with advanced leadership opportunities, the program should operate so as to involve the maximum number of eligible cadets. Therefore, concurrent appointments to multiple CACs is discouraged. (Example: The wing chairperson should not concurrently serve as the wing’s representative to the region.)

So if you are currently a squadron representative to a Wing CAC, you should not be appointed as Chairperson or Vice Chair of the Wing CAC.

 13 
 on: Today at 03:28:29 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by jb512
Interesting. So an AF astronaut, not otherwise rated, would qualify for the CAP observer badge? That's definitely an over-qualification.  ;)

No, he would wear his Astronaut wings or USAF observer badge.

Why would he want to reach for an equivalency when he's already got a badge for that space?

*insert facepalm meme*

I was just asking a simple question.

 14 
 on: Today at 03:14:01 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by Eclipse
Interesting. So an AF astronaut, not otherwise rated, would qualify for the CAP observer badge? That's definitely an over-qualification.  ;)

No, he would wear his Astronaut wings or USAF observer badge.

Why would he want to reach for an equivalency when he's already got a badge for that space?

 15 
 on: Today at 03:12:40 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by Eclipse
Cadets don't generally "apply" to be on CAC, they are appointed by their Unit CC to the body
and then work their way up through the echelons.

Any "application process" would be specific to your squadron or wing.

As to experience and grade, CAC is intended for CAP officers, and moving up
from Group to Wing to Region, etc., generally requires experience at a lower echelon.

NCOs are chosen when a unit does not have interested cadet officers but still wishes to
have representation and happens to have an exceptionally qualified and interested NCO cadet.

 16 
 on: Today at 02:58:38 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by jb512
From Wikipedia:

United States Air Force Navigator Observer Badge.svg

The USAF awards observer ratings at three levels: Observer, Senior Observer, and Master Observer, for active duty officers and officers considered "rated assets" in the Air Reserve Components. The insignia is identical to USAF Navigator/CSO and is typically only awarded as an "observer" insignia with the Astronaut emblem to USAF officers who have completed training as NASA Mission Specialist Astronauts, have flown at least once in space in the Space Shuttle and/or served at the International Space Station, and are not otherwise rated as USAF Pilots or USAF Navigators/CSOs. The following additional criteria are required to be rated as a USAF Observer:

Not directly related to CAP's concept of an "Observer" but the USAF rating does exist.

Interesting. So an AF astronaut, not otherwise rated, would qualify for the CAP observer badge? That's definitely an over-qualification.  ;)

 17 
 on: Today at 02:45:49 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by ol'fido
From Wikipedia:

United States Air Force Navigator Observer Badge.svg

The USAF awards observer ratings at three levels: Observer, Senior Observer, and Master Observer, for active duty officers and officers considered "rated assets" in the Air Reserve Components. The insignia is identical to USAF Navigator/CSO and is typically only awarded as an "observer" insignia with the Astronaut emblem to USAF officers who have completed training as NASA Mission Specialist Astronauts, have flown at least once in space in the Space Shuttle and/or served at the International Space Station, and are not otherwise rated as USAF Pilots or USAF Navigators/CSOs. The following additional criteria are required to be rated as a USAF Observer:

Not directly related to CAP's concept of an "Observer" but the USAF rating does exist.

 18 
 on: Today at 02:43:44 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by jb512
Looking at the national commander he has AF command pilot wings and basic CAP pilot wings so if he's not utilizing the reg then there's our example.

Maj Gen Smith retired from the USAF as a Colonel.

He's not using an equivalency, he's simply wearing the wings he earned in the Air Force.

Correct. And he did not ask for an equivalency from his AF rating for his CAP wings, they are basic.

 19 
 on: Today at 02:41:53 PM 
Started by Color Guard Rifleman - Last post by Color Guard Rifleman
I had recently applied for my wing/region CAC. I knew that I was going to no get chosen but I still wanted to apply. What experience/rank would you recommend that I have to apply for CAC? How likely does it happen a NCO is chosen for CAC?

 20 
 on: Today at 02:32:43 PM 
Started by jb512 - Last post by Eclipse
Looking at the national commander he has AF command pilot wings and basic CAP pilot wings so if he's not utilizing the reg then there's our example.

Maj Gen Smith retired from the USAF as a Colonel.

He's not using an equivalency, he's simply wearing the wings he earned in the Air Force.


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