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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: CAPed Crusader on June 03, 2019, 11:52:02 PM

Title: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: CAPed Crusader on June 03, 2019, 11:52:02 PM
Hello,
So I am taking a SAR GTM3 training and a requirement is an ORANGE HAT with the ABUs. I went to the ABU wear instructions, and it didn't say if it is approved or not. I understand I have to wear it for this event, but my question is, "will I only wear it for that event, or to CAP meetings too? And will I have to wear it to GT missions?"

Also, I read that you can wear up to 5 patches on the ABUs in the instructions, can you wear ES patches on ABUs with only a GES, IS700, IS100 qualifications? FY: I asked my Cadet Commander and they did know, so I asked my squadron Commander, and was not sure [apparently we never had any GT members?], so I am asking here.

Sincerely,
DeRosa
Title: Re: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: Eclipse on June 04, 2019, 12:02:05 AM
Quote from: francisderosa16 on June 03, 2019, 11:52:02 PM
Hello,
So I am taking a SAR GTM3 training and a requirement is an ORANGE HAT with the ABUs. I went to the ABU wear instructions, and it didn't say if it is approved or not. I understand I have to wear it for this event, but my question is, "will I only wear it for that event, or to CAP meetings too? And will I have to wear it to GT missions?"

The is no requirement for an orange hat in the national curriculum.  It may be a wing or local SOP.

In that case, ask the authority who is telling you to wear orange.

The only thing nationally approved for the ABU is the patrol cap.
Title: Re: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: CAPed Crusader on June 04, 2019, 12:03:59 AM
Thank you for your help!!!
Title: Re: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: Paul Creed III on June 04, 2019, 12:10:51 AM
Quote from: francisderosa16 on June 03, 2019, 11:52:02 PM


Also, I read that you can wear up to 5 patches on the ABUs in the instructions, can you wear ES patches on ABUs with only a GES, IS700, IS100 qualifications? FY: I asked my Cadet Commander and they did know, so I asked my squadron Commander, and was not sure [apparently we never had any GT members?], so I am asking here.

Sincerely,
DeRosa

Check out page 3 of https://www.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/R035_006_70213217D50CA.pdf for information on what you need in order to wear the ES patch.
Title: Re: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: NovemberWhiskey on June 04, 2019, 12:42:51 AM
Also N.B. that the "Emergency Services Patch" (version 1 or version 2) shown in CAPM 39-1 attachment 8 is not authorized for wear on ABUs.
Title: Re: ES Uniform and Regulations and ABU
Post by: CAPed Crusader on June 04, 2019, 08:18:20 PM
Thank you everyone for your help!