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General Discussion => Uniforms & Awards => Topic started by: Lem on June 08, 2018, 09:27:02 AM

Title: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: Lem on June 08, 2018, 09:27:02 AM
Greeting s all  I have a question I am hopping some of you might be able to help me with. Almost every time I wear my class A's or B's I have a frog come off a badge or device unknown to me until I or some one notice the device is dangling by one pin. this always seam to happen at the most inopportune times.  I have tried replacing the frogs with new ones. Even bought new devices thinking the pins might have been worn down. It still happens  Any advice on how to cure this problem so everything stays pinned until I remove therm for cleaning. 

Thank you for any help you can provide
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: CAPOfficer on June 08, 2018, 10:21:10 AM

The best item I have found to work is the Clutch Jewelers with Spring.  They cost a little more than three dollars for three at AAFES, but they don't fail.

I have always had difficulty with the newer clutches (frogs).
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: Eclipse on June 08, 2018, 10:23:48 AM
It happens, welcome to CAP.

You can also get pin locks that have a set screw. Bikers use them to hold pins on thick leather jackets.

Be careful you don't pinch the pin too hard.

https://www.amazon.com/Lapel-Pin-Locking-Backs-Keepers/dp/B007IU94Z2

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81Jk4k3EGAL._UX679_.jpg)
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: Lem on June 09, 2018, 06:14:34 AM
Thank you CAPOfficer  and Eclipse  for the responses
Eclipse that is a very interesting concept, never thought about using very small set collars

CAPOfficer I will google the Clutch Jewelers with spring  and compare the two  unless you have a better way to find them

Again thanks for the help 
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: Mitchell 1969 on June 10, 2018, 01:04:15 AM
When i was in Korea on IACE, long, long ago, I noticed that the ROKAF and ROK Army people used something like these. They look like the metal ones, but are one-piece rubber or plastic. I brought a bag home with me. They lasted for years and never fell off. Cheap, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Shapenty-Butterfly-Keepers-Replacement-Uniform/dp/B01N5I7XUU/ref=pd_aw_fbt_193_img_3/146-3622742-7301969?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=F0W5N4YAMXRFQ9GGVAPJ


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Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: audiododd on June 10, 2018, 03:19:23 AM
Occums Razor - Have you tried bending the "wings" of the frog out a bit?  That fixed probably 70-80% of my loose frog problems. 
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: Toad1168 on June 13, 2018, 01:02:18 PM
Make sure you put backing or stiffeners behind the badge, nameplate, etc.  That helps immensely with the frogs staying on in my experience.
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: abdsp51 on June 13, 2018, 01:54:27 PM
Make sure you put backing or stiffeners behind the badge, nameplate, etc.  That helps immensely with the frogs staying on in my experience.

Not needed for the service coat.... blues shirts most definately..
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: THRAWN on June 13, 2018, 02:29:35 PM
When i was in Korea on IACE, long, long ago, I noticed that the ROKAF and ROK Army people used something like these. They look like the metal ones, but are one-piece rubber or plastic. I brought a bag home with me. They lasted for years and never fell off. Cheap, too.

https://www.amazon.com/Shapenty-Butterfly-Keepers-Replacement-Uniform/dp/B01N5I7XUU/ref=pd_aw_fbt_193_img_3/146-3622742-7301969?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=F0W5N4YAMXRFQ9GGVAPJ


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I got a bag of these about 20 years ago. I think I've replaced 5....
Title: Re: Trouble with badge frogs
Post by: NIN on June 13, 2018, 10:01:52 PM
I use jewellers clutches almost exclusively now. They work 10x better than frogs, can you can get a whole bag cheap on amazon.

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