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Title: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: Live2Learn on January 03, 2017, 04:04:33 PM
http://apps.trb.org/cmsfeed/TRBNetProjectDisplay.asp?ProjectID=4239 (http://apps.trb.org/cmsfeed/TRBNetProjectDisplay.asp?ProjectID=4239)

Future astronauts take heed:  You too may have to comply with noise abatement procedures...  :)

Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: THRAWN on January 03, 2017, 04:54:09 PM
Sorry, can't hear you as the world trembles at the sound of my rockets.
Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: Spam on January 03, 2017, 05:37:01 PM
Thanks for posting this (we might bid on this at work).

V/r
Spam

Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: Al Sayre on January 03, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Whenever I hear people complain about the aircraft noise at an airport, I ask them "Was the airport there when you bought/built your home/business?"  They invariably answer yes, to which I respond "Here's your sign..."
Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: PHall on January 03, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 03, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Whenever I hear people complain about the aircraft noise at an airport, I ask them "Was the airport there when you bought/built your home/business?"  They invariably answer yes, to which I respond "Here's your sign..."

"But, but, but the real estate agent said it was closing."  >:D
Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: Live2Learn on January 04, 2017, 02:39:01 AM
Quote from: PHall on January 03, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 03, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Whenever I hear people complain about the aircraft noise at an airport, I ask them "Was the airport there when you bought/built your home/business?"  They invariably answer yes, to which I respond "Here's your sign..."

"But, but, but the real estate agent said it was closing."  >:D

It's tough living in a country where people vote for their government and who often also vote for their personal preferences and agendas.  No, wait, that's just a minor inconvenience called "democracy".  :(  I guess we have to work harder to make airports relevant.
Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: PHall on January 04, 2017, 03:37:30 AM
Quote from: Live2Learn on January 04, 2017, 02:39:01 AM
Quote from: PHall on January 03, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 03, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Whenever I hear people complain about the aircraft noise at an airport, I ask them "Was the airport there when you bought/built your home/business?"  They invariably answer yes, to which I respond "Here's your sign..."

"But, but, but the real estate agent said it was closing."  >:D

It's tough living in a country where people vote for their government and who often also vote for their personal preferences and agendas.  No, wait, that's just a minor inconvenience called "democracy".  :(  I guess we have to work harder to make airports relevant.

The airfield in question was March AFB. When it was "downgraded" to a Air Reserve Base a large number of buyers of the new homes just west of the base were told by the developer that the base was closing. It didn't...  Base is still there and just as busy as it was when it was an AFB.
Title: Re: RFP for Commercial Space Port Operations and Sonic Boom [noise] Measurements
Post by: Live2Learn on January 04, 2017, 05:50:21 AM
Quote from: PHall on January 04, 2017, 03:37:30 AM
Quote from: Live2Learn on January 04, 2017, 02:39:01 AM
Quote from: PHall on January 03, 2017, 11:50:52 PM
Quote from: Al Sayre on January 03, 2017, 10:00:09 PM
Whenever I hear people complain about the aircraft noise at an airport, I ask them "Was the airport there when you bought/built your home/business?"  They invariably answer yes, to which I respond "Here's your sign..."

"But, but, but the real estate agent said it was closing."  >:D

It's tough living in a country where people vote for their government and who often also vote for their personal preferences and agendas.  No, wait, that's just a minor inconvenience called "democracy".  :(  I guess we have to work harder to make airports relevant.

The airfield in question was March AFB. When it was "downgraded" to a Air Reserve Base a large number of buyers of the new homes just west of the base were told by the developer that the base was closing. It didn't...  Base is still there and just as busy as it was when it was an AFB.

Nice history lesson.  Thanks.

Unfortunately, the Base Realignment And Closing criteria include elements that are both political and objectively land use oriented.  We might guess that sale of residential properties set MAFB up for controversy... we'd be on target.  People who bought the homes can argue both to a future BRAC Commission and to their Members in Congress that the base is a hazard.  Should a serious mishap occur with multiple civilian casualties, a possibility that cannot be discounted, the outcome might swing the balance against jobs and patriotic feelings toward NIMBY.  It's happened before.  And, despite some recent rhetoric, we're still a democracy.  Arguably democratic governments are the least 'efficient' forms of government, but IMHO, still the "best" form, all things considered.