Its not just CAP who gets the fakers...

[NIN]

http://www.thedailynewrochelle.com/news/supposed-army-general-pow-exposed

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=28054

http://www.lohud.com/article/20111223/NEWS02/312230045/POW-general-grand-marshal-s-record-service-fails-materialize-

http://www.newrochelletalk.com/content/media-feeding-frenzy-phony-general-story-erupts-fermijon-marrero-cracks-admits-lies-adds-mor

Even the local Veteran's organizations were rooked in this situation.

[Abby.L]

Grr... These kinds of people annoy me. There's a few people that I know who do something like that, but not to that extent. Thank god for that...

[Eclipse]

So...

If nothing else, why would someone who retired 20+ years earlier be wearing a current uniform(s)?

Does the USAC get credit for busting him?  I'm assuming he was never a member, right?

[NIN]

So...

If nothing else, why would someone who retired 20+ years earlier be wearing a current uniform(s)?

Does the USAC get credit for busting him?  I'm assuming he was never a member, right?

USAC wasn't seeking "credit" per se.  Colonel Land's son, 2LT Land, has a google search that pops up mentions of the USAC when they show up in the Google results.   The USAC got a mention regarding this gentleman and him bringing a cadet unit to New Rochelle.  He'd only ever contacted us (some months back) and went no further, and something wasn't quite right about him.   When this all started to percolate, we were still only a "mention," but there is no way Colonel Land wanted the USAC's name associated with this, so he called the paper to let them know "Hey, look, this guy is not, nor has ever been, one of us, and does not represent us." to set the record straight and to be sure that any mention of the USAC in relation to this guy was not in the "He's a cadet general, yeahhhhh.." variety.

ETA: retirees can wear the "current uniform." But you actually have to _be_ a retiree, not a guy who was a Private for a year in 1976.

[Eclipse]

ETA: retirees can wear the "current uniform." But you actually have to _be_ a retiree, not a guy who was a Private for a year in 1976.

Can, yes.  But how many are going to go out and buy the whole nine yards, especially a combat version?

Is it common to see long-time retirees in current uniforms?  If anything I'd think they'd want to wear the one they retired in.

[lordmonar]

ETA: retirees can wear the "current uniform." But you actually have to _be_ a retiree, not a guy who was a Private for a year in 1976.

Can, yes.  But how many are going to go out and buy the whole nine yards, especially a combat version?

Is it common to see long-time retirees in current uniforms?  If anything I'd think they'd want to wear the one they retired in.

Last Veterans day...I saw a lot of very old guys wearing the current uniform...both service dress and battle dress.
And a lot of guys just wearing what ever they wanted.

So......yes it happens.  There are just as many old farts out there wanting to relive their glory days as there are wanna bees....the difference is the first group earned the right....and the others need to be beaten with a cane 50 times.   

[AngelWings]

ETA: retirees can wear the "current uniform." But you actually have to _be_ a retiree, not a guy who was a Private for a year in 1976.

Can, yes.  But how many are going to go out and buy the whole nine yards, especially a combat version?

Is it common to see long-time retirees in current uniforms?  If anything I'd think they'd want to wear the one they retired in.

Can't forget the "Shrinking Uniform Syndrome" 

[Bobble]

http://www.p12.nysed.gov/psc/documents/PostedJointServicesPRO.pdf

He (Mr. Marrero) deliberately fooled (or attempted to fool) a lot a people, however he may end up in court as a defendant due to the document above.  Even though the Feds are apparently not all that interested in charging him under the SVA, NYS Penal Law states:

"S 175.35 Offering a false instrument for filing in the first degree.

A person is guilty of offering a false instrument for filing in the first degree when, knowing that a written instrument contains a false statement or false information, and with intent to defraud the state or any political subdivision, public authority or public benefit corporation of the state, he offers or presents it to a public office, public servant, public authority or public benefit corporation with the knowledge or belief that it will be filed with, registered or recorded in or otherwise become a part of the records of such public office, public servant, public authority or public benefit corporation.

Offering a false instrument for filing in the first degree is a class E felony."

If anything, I think this serves as an excellent cautionary tale.    "Доверяй, но проверяй"  ("Trust, but verify")

[Eclipse]

http://www.p12.nysed.gov/psc/documents/PostedJointServicesPRO.pdf

Wow - considering this was a proposed school program, that document isn't exactly a shining example of grammar.

[Bobble]

Tru dat.

[spacecommand]

Just curious from the title, how many faker's does CAP get?  Not many wanting to go around faking being "Civil Air Patrol" (though maybe some maybe do exist).  Or how many fakers have tried to join CAP?

A cursory glance of these websites that are exposing these fakers, from "fake marine" to "fake generals" the vast majority of the fakers out there tend to want to fake being in the Army or Marines (there are Navy fakers, CG fakers and AF fakers as well), but the Army and Marines tend to get the most.

This guy tops my list of being super obviously fake (AF Faker):
http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/photo-2.jpg

[lordmonar]

I know that in my 8 years with CAP I have run into at least two people who have faked their military service and their CAP service to be able to wear extra rank.

We had a guy in our wing who claimed to be a medically retired Army Col.  Former commander of a major Army Recruiting unit.  He bamboozeld TNWG into giving him LT Col and used that as his basis for rank when he transfered here to NVWG.

When asked to provide a DD215 he decided that CAP was not for him.
He had a DD2A (brown dependant's ID) that said he was medicaly retired or some such as that.
We notifed the local OSI office and made sure that his CAP membership was terminated.

Turns out he was only like a E-3 or something like that...but he was a BGen in the U.S. Army Volunteer Reserves or something like that.

Second guy I did not get the details...but when he was asked for his DD215 he decided CAP was not for him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Volunteer_Reserve_Association

[NIN]

http://thisainthell.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/photo-2.jpg

Ohh.. MSgt Soup Sandwich. He's my personal hero!

[Major Lord]

The U.S. Army Cadet Corp mailed a part of a member's personnel (DD-214)  file to the media? He will probably sue them......We had a fake Army Colonel for awhile. When the FBI contacted me, they said that they had one "fake" Colonel ( Wing Commander) calling another fake "Colonel" ( crazy person) a fake.......They did not take it very seriously, and the matter was dropped.

Major Lord

[SarDragon]

If the 'privileged' information is blacked out, there nothing wrong with disclosure. There are many DD-214 copies on the net in the poser exposure sites, and they have all been properly sanitized.

[cap235629]

Army regulation 670-1 allows for honorably discharged veterans with wartime service as defined in current law (need not be declared, if you can join the American Legion then you meet the reg) to wear the current Dress uniform at appropriate patriotic and holiday celebrations with the highest rank held displayed along with all awards and decorations.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

And my favourite, a faker from Down Under, posing as an RAAF Wing Commander:





He was actually a Wing Commander in the Australian Air Force Cadets, kind of like a CAP senior member.

I guess he put on all those mini-US medals rather than using Aussie/Commonwealth ones because he thought they wouldn't be as recognisable...even though many Australians and New Zealanders who served in Vietnam did get some US hardware, like the Air Medal.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

(need not be declared, if you can join the American Legion then you meet the reg)

If it WERE required to be declared...wasn't our last declared war WWII?

[cap235629]

(need not be declared, if you can join the American Legion then you meet the reg)

If it WERE required to be declared...wasn't our last declared war WWII?

yes

[Private Investigator]

We had a guy in our wing who claimed to be a medically retired Army Col.  Former commander of a major Army Recruiting unit.  He bamboozeld TNWG into giving him LT Col and used that as his basis for rank when he transfered here to NVWG.

ROFL