CAPR 62-2 and Encampments

[captrncap]

Anyone have experience with Encampments (or extend activities) and the new CAPR 62-2? This regulation says report everything.

Wow, it looks like you spend 10 minutes reporting a blister or "hot spots"!!!

How are the Wing CC and Wing Safety Officers dealing with this?

[mikeylikey]

^ I took 5 minutes to reread 62-2. 

Anything above "first aid" provided by a professional (Doctor, PAC, EMT) needs reported. 

"Any person requires medical intervention above the level of first aid treatment that must be furnished by a licensed doctor, registered nurse, physician's assistant, or emergency medical technician"

Too often your Medical section at Encampment either needs to feel important, involved, or useful.  They will go extra steps to make minor incidents into major traumas. 

Blisters, hot spots and minor cuts requiring a bandage (read BandAid) need no reporting whatsoever. 

Don't sweat the small stuff.  However, be proactive, so you don't have to fill out the forms later on! 

[Eclipse]

Blisters, hot spots and minor cuts requiring a bandage (read BandAid) need no reporting whatsoever. 

Don't sweat the small stuff.  However, be proactive, so you don't have to fill out the forms later on! 

I agree.

My suggestion, and what we did in the Spring, is to contact your Wing SE and/or CC and discuss / negotiate with them as ultimately they will have to do the investigations and be responsible for anything "bad" that happens.

[lordmonar]

A suggestion is that the Med Section Guys (Docs, EMT, Who ever) that takes care of the minor stuff should just keep of a running log of all the stuff the "treat" and then submit it as mass safety report at the end.

The SE guy can look over the log every day and determin if anything needs to have a stand alone report.

[Eclipse]

Yes, absolutely keep a full, local log...

[Ned]

Just a friendly reminder . . .

CAP Health Services Officers / HSOs (the term that covers our medical folks) may not, under any circumstances provide non-emergency care.  See CAPR 160-1, paragraph 6.  Restated, CAP HSOs simply may not provide routine medical care at encampment.

Of course all CAP members can (and should) provide care in a genuine emergency to the limits of their skills and abilities.

HSOs that provide routine medical care at encampment act outside the regulations and create a medical liability nightmare that potentially endangers the existence of the corporation itself.


Ned Lee
Former CAP Legal Officer

[Eclipse]

An interesting circular argument, isn't it?

Do not, under any circumstances, provide routine care, however if you do, make sure to report it up the chain.   

[wacapgh]

An interesting circular argument, isn't it?

Do not, under any circumstances, provide routine care, however if you do, make sure to report it up the chain.   

Not at all, if you follow the regulations as published.

Since you are prohibited from providing non-emergency medical care, you have nothing to report (if you are following the regulations).

We had a fairly detailed discussion on this subject at the PCR/RMR Staff College last March. Col. Lee went into some of the specifics as to why "we" as CAP cannot provide routine or non-emergency medical services.

Do a search for posts by Col. Lee on this site, and you'll learn that what you don't know can hurt you and CAP.

If you have a chance to attend a seminar or conference where Col. Lee is speaking, make the trip! His presentation was one of the highlights of the RSC.