Where do we go from here?

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 02:54:30 AM

hey guys..

curiosity killed the cat

What happens after we take and pass all 6 Aerospace Dimensions tests?

MIKE · May 22, 2009, 03:01:45 AM

You start on the big book.

P.S: I hope you aren't banking AE tests.

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 03:05:07 AM

No 80% on both I took today

MIKE · May 22, 2009, 03:07:25 AM

If they were both AE tests then that is test banking, and that is strictly verboten.

Quote from: CAPR 52-162-2. b. (3) Test Banking. Cadets may not test beyond their next achievement. For example, a C/TSgt may take Achievement 5 tests, but not Achievement 6 tests. See Figure 2-1 for the Cadet Program's path of progression.

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 03:33:54 AM

So, if that does happen, what is he supposed to do, retake them later?

MIKE · May 22, 2009, 03:38:11 AM

Yep.

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 03:53:46 AM

I thought you meant banking as a vernacular for fail then retake

So am I just supposed to sit here praying to god for my next promotion?

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 03:55:30 AM

Well I don't think we ever heard, were both of your tests in fact AE tests?

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 03:56:12 AM

Quote from: BrandonKea on May 22, 2009, 03:55:30 AM
Well I don't think we ever heard, were both of your tests in fact AE tests?

Yup, I took Module 1 and 4.

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 03:58:34 AM

Quote from: Daniel L on May 22, 2009, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: BrandonKea on May 22, 2009, 03:55:30 AM
Well I don't think we ever heard, were both of your tests in fact AE tests?

Yup, I took Module 1 and 4.

Well it doesn't sound as though you intentionally broke regs here. I would put it through your chain of command that you were told you couldn't bank tests (reference the regulation if need be,) then tell them you want to use one of the module tests for your current achievement, and when it comes time for your next promotion, you'll retest.

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 04:00:45 AM

Well I'm kinda screwed.

(Just kinda.)

I'm on 21st Century Leadership Chapter 5
And I've taken two modules.

why does my Squadron Commander keep allowing me to test?

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 04:03:55 AM

Quote from: Daniel L on May 22, 2009, 04:00:45 AM
Well I'm kinda screwed.

(Just kinda.)

I'm on 21st Century Leadership Chapter 5
And I've taken two modules.

why does my Squadron Commander keep allowing me to test?

I'm confused.

Are you a C/TSgt testing for C/MSgt and have only taken 2 AE Mods?

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 04:05:22 AM

No I'm an Airman

I've taken five leadership tests, and two modules.

Eclipse · May 22, 2009, 04:09:17 AM

You unit's TCO and / or DCC should really know better.

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 04:10:03 AM

Yeeeeah, you're gonna want to stop testing...

MIKE hit the nail on the head with the 52-16 citation. You aren't supposed to test past your current acheivement. So, as a C/Amn, you should be taking Leadership Chapter 2, and ANY AE module.

Your squadron commander may be unfamiliar with these rules. Your DCC or Testing officer SHOULD know, however may also be unaware. Just let them know about the regs stating you can't test past your current achievement.

(At least you're motivated though, kudos to you on that. Nothing says you can't read ahead and still learn the stuff...)

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 04:13:13 AM

Well our squadron leader is our DCC.

It would help if he didn't try to keep the cadets together in promotion status

It feels like I spend forever waiting.

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 04:14:46 AM

You get held back so you all promote at once?

Daniel · May 22, 2009, 04:16:06 AM

It seems like it

LtCol057 · May 22, 2009, 04:21:41 AM

Does anyone else see a problem with this scenario? Unfortunately, I know of a squadron in my area that is allegedly doing the same thing.

BrandonKea · May 22, 2009, 04:35:29 AM

Quote from: LtCol057 on May 22, 2009, 04:21:41 AM
Does anyone else see a problem with this scenario? Unfortunately, I know of a squadron in my area that is allegedly doing the same thing.

I see the problem, but I also see it as an education issue. Remember, you used to be able to bank tests back in the day, so many DCC's and TCO's may not know that anything changed.