New USAF Service Coat Ready for Testing

[bosshawk]

But that doesn't prevent this from becoming the most active thread in this post.

[capchiro]

Gentleman and Ladies, to change the topic for only a minute, I believe we have found our contact for the in-state nominations for the Admiralty for the Navy of the Great State of Nebraska for those of you who missed the former opportunity, (See Above Post from Lt.Col. Kirwin (NEBOOM)), and I bet he will nominate you if asked nicely..Do not touch your knobs or the ones on your computer, I will now return you to your regularly scheduled Heritage Coat Discussion..

[NEBoom]

Gentleman and Ladies, to change the topic for only a minute, I believe we have found our contact for the in-state nominations for the Admiralty for the Navy of the Great State of Nebraska for those of you who missed the former opportunity, (See Above Post from Lt.Col. Kirwan (NEBOOM)), and I bet he will nominate you if asked nicely..Do not touch your knobs or the ones on your computer, I will now return you to your regularly scheduled Heritage Coat Discussion..

LOL!   

I don't even have one of those for myself, and I've lived here nearly all my life!  And it looks like all you "out of staters" have been doing just fine keeping the Governor's office occupied churning out certificates! 

(please move along, there's nothing for you to see here...)

[flyerthom]

 Does an ES gung ho officer have more warrior ethos than a safety officer?  Do the air crew members have the most warrior ethos of all?? Inquiring minds want to know..

In answer to the good Colonels question, it is a well known fact that aviators have the largest stones. 

I thought it was watches...

[ZigZag911]

Maybe the resolution on my monitor isn't sensitive enough, but the 'heritage' jacket did not look all that different from the present one.

You smoking crack again?  Click on the full image.

Don't you mean "still"??

Anyway, that comment was after viewing full image....like I said, I've only got a small monitor (maybe 15 inch, I don't recall)

[Sgt. Savage]

...like I said, I've only got a small monitor (maybe 15 inch, I don't recall)

Who said size doesn't matter.

[SARMedTech]

Did you get this part...

The test locations are Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., and its Gunter Annex; Lackland and Randolph Air Force Bases in Texas, and the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado. In addition, the Air Force Honor Guard will put the coat through its paces.

OK, Conspiracy Theorists...have at it!!!

Is design being headed out of Florida?

I don't know, but I did hear that it was being transported in a black van- traveling at a high rate of speed.

Lets just hope the van doesnt roll over at a high rate of speed. Someone might have to disregard their own safety and well-being to assist the occupants of the van.

[CAPOfficer]

Gentleman and Ladies, to change the topic for only a minute, I believe we have found our contact for the in-state nominations for the Admiralty for the Navy of the Great State of Nebraska for those of you who missed the former opportunity, (See Above Post from Lt.Col. Kirwin (NEBOOM)), and I bet he will nominate you if asked nicely..Do not touch your knobs or the ones on your computer, I will now return you to your regularly scheduled Heritage Coat Discussion..

As a member who has received an Admiralty from the Great State of Nebraska (1990) for services rendered to the state, I find it greatly offensive to see so many exceptional individuals, who willingly give their time, energy and funds in service to our country to diminish their service and integrity through self-nomination for this honor.

While the honor may be considered a gag to some, I can assure you it isn't for those of us who have received the accolade via the proper form.

[SARMedTech]

Does an ES gung ho officer have more warrior ethos than a safety officer?  Do the air crew members have the most warrior ethos of all?? Inquiring minds want to know..

In answer to the good Colonels question, it is a well known fact that aviators have the largest stones. 

I thought it was watches...

Actually, no one knows that aviators have the stones because generally their wives have possession of them at any given time.

Yes, ES Officers do have the biggest stones, we just dont tie them to a red and yellow scarf and wear them around our necks. HooAh!

[SARMedTech]

As someone who now maintains a shaved head after living for 2 years as a Buddhist monk, I can tell you that the warrior ethos has nothing to do with warfare. It has to do with character. It has to do with tradition and the pride that a "warrior" takes in a job well done and does not concern himself with how he looks to others but rather how he is of service to his fellow man. It isnt about medals, but that the medals represented that the warrior put others before himself. It has to do with a quiet, calm spirit, a keen mind and the ability to meet any challenge. The warrior ethos is possessed by those who stand for those who have fallen and serve that others might live.

I emphatically recommend the book "The Path of the Warrior" by Chogyam Trungpa...a Buddhist meditation master and departed teacher. Venerable Trungpa as well as my precious spiritual teacher who recently passed away in Burma achieved the goal of the warrior while sitting quietly and mindfully playing their rightful role in the universe. And yes, I was really was a Buddhist monk, and yes, we discussed the warrior ethos long before it became a military catch phrase.

[LtCol White]

Gentleman and Ladies, to change the topic for only a minute, I believe we have found our contact for the in-state nominations for the Admiralty for the Navy of the Great State of Nebraska for those of you who missed the former opportunity, (See Above Post from Lt.Col. Kirwin (NEBOOM)), and I bet he will nominate you if asked nicely..Do not touch your knobs or the ones on your computer, I will now return you to your regularly scheduled Heritage Coat Discussion..

As a member who has received an Admiralty from the Great State of Nebraska (1990) for services rendered to the state, I find it greatly offensive to see so many exceptional individuals, who willingly give their time, energy and funds in service to our country to diminish their service and integrity through self-nomination for this honor.

While the honor may be considered a gag to some, I can assure you it isn't for those of us who have received the accolade via the proper form.

Please take any further comments over to the admiralty threads so we can keep this one on track. Thanks

[Hawk200]

I believe the warrior ethos that the Air Force is looking at is a similar concept to the Army's. The Army's "warrior ethos" is:

"I will always place the mission first,
I will never accept defeat,
I will never quit,
I will never leave a fallen comrade"

If you ask any soldier what the warrior ethos is, that's what they'll tell you. It's part of the Soldier's Creed, and Army doctrine.

I am kind of interested in that book, though. Something that addresses a person's character is always enlightening. A book I would recommend is "Lonely Soldier" by Adam Harmon. He was an American that served in the Israeli Army. More than just being a soldier, there are some serious lessons on dedication, and hard work.

[Smokey]

AHH...an actual wear test....how intelligent.  I think the wear test for the TPU was done in TP's basement.

As for this service coat......I think it's fine except for the belt.  They have got to loose the belt.   Belts just don't work as Kach said for those pushing the envelope on the weight standards.  While I am within the weight standards, I still don't have a physique that would look complimentary with that goofy belt.

[Major Carrales]

AHH...an actual wear test....how intelligent.  I think the wear test for the TPU was done in TP's basement.

As for this service coat......I think it's fine except for the belt.  They have got to loose the belt.   Belts just don't work as Kach said for those pushing the envelope on the weight standards.  While I am within the weight standards, I still don't have a physique that would look complimentary with that goofy belt.

Let's just rememeber that these are USAF service coats (being tested by the USAF) to be worn by folks that, at least in theory, would be far from exceeding the standards.  Now, for CAP, should they adopt these, that might be another issue.

[SARMedTech]

AHH...an actual wear test....how intelligent.  I think the wear test for the TPU was done in TP's basement.

As for this service coat......I think it's fine except for the belt.  They have got to loose the belt.   Belts just don't work as Kach said for those pushing the envelope on the weight standards.  While I am within the weight standards, I still don't have a physique that would look complimentary with that goofy belt.

Let's just rememeber that these are USAF service coats (being tested by the USAF) to be worn by folks that, at least in theory, would be far from exceeding the standards.  Now, for CAP, should they adopt these, that might be another issue.

The only physiques that look good in uniforms with belts belong to 23 year old USMC Lance Cpls.

[ddelaney103]

I'd be first in line for one of these - the only questions will be whether I'll drop the big bucks for the fancy version or not.

I've missed my old Service Dress since I had to hang it up for the "business suit."  I'm good for another 12 years or so, so I'll get some use out of it.

Point of Order:  "Lose the belt" means you are going to discard it, while "loose the belt" means you are going to let it out a notch or two.  While losing the belt would almost certainly be against regs, loosing the belt might just as well be written into 39-1.

[Smokey]

My spelling error.... ....Lose it, dump it, get rid of it.........speck check didn't catch that for obvious reasons.......

[Hawk200]

As for this service coat......I think it's fine except for the belt.  They have got to loose the belt.   Belts just don't work as Kach said for those pushing the envelope on the weight standards.  While I am within the weight standards, I still don't have a physique that would look complimentary with that goofy belt.

If you're over a few pounds, then you pull the belt tighter. That should in turn make you appear a little slimmer.



Or else you look like one of those balloon animals thats been twisted in the middle...

[JC004]

Maybe the resolution on my monitor isn't sensitive enough, but the 'heritage' jacket did not look all that different from the present one.

You smoking crack again?  Click on the full image.

Don't you mean "still"??

Anyway, that comment was after viewing full image....like I said, I've only got a small monitor (maybe 15 inch, I don't recall)

15"?!  Who does that?!  It's got the different cut, lapels, pockets, belt, and epaulets.  Wonder if the belt will stay or not...maybe we should take bets.   

[Grumpy]

Egad, I miss the old silver tans.