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« on: September 04, 2017, 02:36:23 AM »

I tried looking in 39-1, but could not find if we can wear our DUI on the cap uniform, I know we can wear military ribbons and badges, but could find specific insignia, thanks
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 03:15:03 AM »

Not authorized. Per the 39-1 if it's not listed then you can't wear it.
You can however, going through channels of course, request permission from National Headquarters to wear it. But I wouldn't hold my breath.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 03:19:44 AM »

Not authorized. Per the 39-1 if it's not listed then you can't wear it.
You can however, going through channels of course, request permission from National Headquarters to wear it. But I wouldn't hold my breath.

This.

NHQ is the only authority that can authorize the wear of the DUI.  If anyone else says that you can wear it they are not correct.  Not even the Wing or Region commander has that authority.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 03:32:11 AM »

I don't see it ever happening. If the AF ever allows combat patches for all, you may have a small shot at a case.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 03:00:21 PM »

Wait.......the army gives awards for DUIs?? I know some Marines that would have 2nd and 3rd awards  >:D >:D >:D
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2017, 03:18:41 PM »

Wait.......the army gives awards for DUIs?? I know some Marines that would have 2nd and 3rd awards  >:D >:D >:D

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 03:49:56 PM »

I tried looking in 39-1, but could not find if we can wear our DUI on the cap uniform, I know we can wear military ribbons and badges, but could find specific insignia, thanks

The DUI or distinctive unit insignia is not an award.  Rather, it is a heraldric unit identifier worn on the shoulder loops and on enlisted berets. 

The SSI is also a unit identifier.  The SSI-FWTS is a combat unit identifier.  These are all not awards. 
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2017, 03:56:26 PM »

In other words, you are asking to wear what in CAP would be another squadron patch in addition to your current squadron patch.
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 06:14:29 PM »

Wear Army stuff on your Army uni, wear CAP stuff on your CAP uni....keep it simple,son....
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2017, 07:26:29 PM »

Wait.......the army gives awards for DUIs?? I know some Marines that would have 2nd and 3rd awards  >:D >:D >:D

Must have been in Iwakuni, Japan. They used to give out DUIs like Halloween candy, including to people on bicycles on base.  ;D
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2017, 11:42:16 PM »

Wait.......the army gives awards for DUIs?? I know some Marines that would have 2nd and 3rd awards  >:D >:D >:D

Must have been in Iwakuni, Japan. They used to give out DUIs like Halloween candy, including to people on bicycles on base.  ;D

True story, I arrested a guy once for Public Intox for riding his bicycle on the interstate, wrong way, in the middle lane. Got to the jail and the magistrate told me if I would have done a SFST on the scene I could have charged him for DUI. I was like.........uh cool.
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2017, 12:27:15 AM »

What is an SFST?
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2017, 12:37:53 AM »

What is an SFST?
Standard Field Sobriety Test
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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2017, 12:40:30 AM »

At my age, things that would be "standard" and "common sense" are... forgotten.

I keep thinking and thanking it does not happen. I do not drink, nor use drugs. But I think I would  fail a sobriety test because of my physical problems and age.

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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2017, 12:56:31 AM »

At my age, things that would be "standard" and "common sense" are... forgotten.

I keep thinking and thanking it does not happen. I do not drink, nor use drugs. But I think I would  fail a sobriety test because of my physical problems and age.

My bad. We actually take physical abilities into account.
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 10:29:58 PM »

I tried looking in 39-1, but could not find if we can wear our DUI on the cap uniform, I know we can wear military ribbons and badges, but could find specific insignia, thanks

I'm assuming you are active or reserve in asking this.  As a veteran, I'm not sure I'm authorized to wear DUI of my last unit on the occasions I can and do wear my uniform: Memorial Day, Veterans Day, weddings, funerals, etc.  When dress blues were dress blues, DUI weren't worn anyway, which made that an easy choice.

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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2017, 11:38:35 PM »

I tried looking in 39-1, but could not find if we can wear our DUI on the cap uniform, I know we can wear military ribbons and badges, but could find specific insignia, thanks
Nope.
Not authorized.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2017, 10:36:37 AM »

Or better yet just ask your squadron commander, she is all knowing and omnipotent ::)
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2017, 05:26:50 PM »

Just to offer a bit of clarity on this topic, let me explain what the Op was probably talking about. In the US Army, enlisted Soldiers serving in a specific unit wear the distinctive unit insignia (aka unit crests) of that outfit on their epaulets with the Army Service Uniform. In addition, you have a regimental affiliation. The unit crest of your affiliated regiment is displayed over the right pocket. Combat service and combat service support Soldiers are always affiliated with their corps. (MP, ordnance, medical, quartermaster, etc.) Combat arms Soldiers affiliate with a specific regiment.

As somebody else mentioned, these aren't awards. The SSI-FWTS (combat patch) and the CSIB are two different things. The CSIB is an identification badge. I've been researching it in Air Force regulations and instructions for wear on service dress, but haven't found very clear guidance.

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2017, 06:09:20 PM »

I tried looking in 39-1, but could not find if we can wear our DUI on the cap uniform, I know we can wear military ribbons and badges, but could find specific insignia, thanks

Missed this the first time around.

Former soldier here. Short version: DUIs are not authorized on the AF uniform, and by extension, the CAP uniform.

The concept of a "unit crest" or "regimental affiliation" would make most "big Blue" folks heads asplode. :)

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