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PHall
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2017, 08:53:37 PM »

Personally they never should have done away with SAC... Then the issues that cropped up over the last 10 Years wouldn't have happened.

We "SAC Trained Killers" did notice that they waited until LeMay was dead and buried before they did away with SAC.

SAC had an "elitist" rep among the other MAJCOMS. The Fighter Pilot Mafia Chief of Staff (Mc Peak) couldn't kill off SAC fast enough.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2017, 09:13:47 PM »

We "SAC Trained Killers" did notice that they waited until LeMay was dead and buried before they did away with SAC.

SAC had an "elitist" rep among the other MAJCOMS. The Fighter Pilot Mafia Chief of Staff (Mc Peak) couldn't kill off SAC fast enough.

I think alot of what occurred within the AF was McPeak's doing and we have finally only within the last few years been recovering.
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Luis R. Ramos
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« Reply #22 on: July 24, 2017, 08:47:28 AM »

Saying "Fighter Pilot mafia" also points out there was more than one elite attitude, though...

Now I hide behind and below the desk as I will receive...
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« Reply #23 on: July 24, 2017, 02:49:32 PM »

Saying "Fighter Pilot mafia" also points out there was more than one elite attitude, though...

Now I hide behind and below the desk as I will receive...

There is. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 24, 2017, 04:03:20 PM »

We "SAC Trained Killers" did notice that they waited until LeMay was dead and buried before they did away with SAC.

SAC had an "elitist" rep among the other MAJCOMS. The Fighter Pilot Mafia Chief of Staff (Mc Peak) couldn't kill off SAC fast enough.

I think alot of what occurred within the AF was McPeak's doing and we have finally only within the last few years been recovering.

The "business suit uniform" was definitely McPeak's doing.  (Thus do I continue the ongoing CAPTalk legacy of everything eventually turning into a uniform thread!)

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« Reply #25 on: July 25, 2017, 07:33:28 PM »

I used to work with a guy who was in the USAF around 1965.  He said many times that the SAC guys were different.

 I really don't understand when you say "business suit uniform", do you mean a type of flight suit?
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« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2017, 07:12:38 AM »

I used to work with a guy who was in the USAF around 1965.  He said many times that the SAC guys were different.

 I really don't understand when you say "business suit uniform", do you mean a type of flight suit?

I'm referring to the current service coat uniform (Class As, for the Army types out there).  Take off the shiny silver buttons and it's just a business suit.

The prior uniform (sometimes called affectionately the "Tony Nelson" uniform) was much more military.  That's my personal opinion, and your mileage may vary.

The current uniform (sometimes called not-so-affectionately the "Tony McPeak" uniform) is, at least, an improvement over the way it was originally designed:  no epaulets, no U.S. cutouts, no nameplates, and for officers - sleeve lace similar to the Navy's to designate grade.

Heck, McPeak even tried to get away with no headgear at all, at one point.

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PHall
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« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2017, 08:59:46 PM »

The SAC guys were different because we were held to very high standards if you were in Maintenance or were a flyer.
Many people were on the "Personnel Reliability Program" because we worked on or around aircraft or missiles that could deliver nuclear weapons.
People on PRP were closely monitored. Something like a death in your extended family could get you suspended from PRP because you might be mentally unstable.
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Nikos
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« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2017, 04:03:41 PM »

Just in case I was not clear.  The guy I worked with who said the SAC guys were different did not mean it in a bad way.  Perhaps a better way to put it is that SAC is the best of the best.
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PHall
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« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2017, 08:16:53 PM »

Here's a little ditty that kind of "explains" SAC.

"To error is human, to forgive is divine. Neither of which is SAC policy!" >:D

FTFY.
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abdsp51
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« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2017, 08:45:55 PM »

Perhaps a better way to put it is that SAC iswas the best of the best.

FTFY
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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2017, 06:41:39 PM »

The SAC guys were different because we were held to very high standards if you were in Maintenance or were a flyer.
Many people were on the "Personnel Reliability Program" because we worked on or around aircraft or missiles that could deliver nuclear weapons.
People on PRP were closely monitored. Something like a death in your extended family could get you suspended from PRP because you might be mentally unstable.

Still true.

Camper alert teams still exist.

A lot of elements from SAC lived on in the missile community...including a lot of the bad elements. Actually wrote my master's thesis on the subject.
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