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Benefits of CAP

Started by mclarke, April 26, 2011, 04:22:27 PM

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majdomke

Perhaps a review of some definitions of the word "Tactical" are in order:
1. Of, relating to, or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end (Doesn't participating in AF assigned missions gain a specific military end?)
2. Used in or supporting limited military operations (see #1)
3. Involving or pertaining to actions, ends, or means that are immediate or short-term in duration, and/or lesser in importance or magnitude, than those of a strategy or a larger purpose. (see #1)
4. Involving military tactics (getting a little redundant now but you get the point)

So it seems from reading numerous references about the definition of "Tactical" that our roles and services we provide to our local, state and national agencies need to be better communicated to those who see CAP as "Non-Tactical"

Eclipse

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"Tactical" or not, the bottom line is that they offer the discount to just about every possible nook or cranny of
local, state, and federal government affiliation, a category a Congressionally chartered organization like CAP certainly falls well within.

As posted, an accountant for a local municipality could get the discount, but we can't.  Again, whatever.  If they don't want member's money,
that is their business decision to make.

However the reason this dried up was specifically because some people, likely active and banned members of this forum, woke up one
day and decided to "fix" the situation for whatever misguided, busy-body reason they got into their narrow-minded head that morning.  There are posts
to that effect easily found with the search tool.

Deny all you like, but we have all read the various and multiple posts by some people here who take it upon themselves to "actively correct" people's understanding of CAP, and no amount of common sense is ever going to stop them, as they also have expounded about the same behavior in
other parts of their personal universes which do not include CAP.

Since "collateral damage" is lost on these people, perhaps "you reap what you sow" is a more appropriate mantra.

"That Others May Zoom"

majdomke


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Quote from: Spaceman3750 on July 29, 2011, 03:29:01 PM
So? Just because someone else is doing it too doesn't mean it's OK.

Definitely agree it's not right. My intent wasn't to imply such actions are correct, just that they're out there. 

Reading that back, I probably spend too much time talking with lawyers... :)

JC004

Quote from: ltdomke on July 29, 2011, 04:59:54 PM
Perhaps a review of some definitions of the word "Tactical" are in order:
1. Of, relating to, or constituting actions carefully planned to gain a specific military end (Doesn't participating in AF assigned missions gain a specific military end?)
2. Used in or supporting limited military operations (see #1)
3. Involving or pertaining to actions, ends, or means that are immediate or short-term in duration, and/or lesser in importance or magnitude, than those of a strategy or a larger purpose. (see #1)
4. Involving military tactics (getting a little redundant now but you get the point)

So it seems from reading numerous references about the definition of "Tactical" that our roles and services we provide to our local, state and national agencies need to be better communicated to those who see CAP as "Non-Tactical"

I was feeling like they might be using the #3 because they are allowing EMS, firefighters, etc.  They're obviously not military operations.

Either way, we should fix this and make a whole bunch of awesome CAP benefit programs.  There have been discounts I've even run into over the years that National didn't seem to know about.  So we add those and get new ones!

RADIOMAN015

I know we are able to use the VERY large & large portable propane gas grills (as in towed as a trailer/another fits in pickup bed) from base recreation services for cook outs supporting CAP activities.  For one NER sponsored activity they were willing to "deeply" discounted "tent space" in the famcamp for anyone who wanted to pitch a tent and stay there, in order to keep costs down for the participants. 

So at least for CAP units on military bases, it might be worth looking into what services squadron/rec services can provide to the unit for free or at a minimum cost to the unit.
RM