Deputy Commander for Seniors

Started by Snake Doctor, March 25, 2011, 02:07:17 PM

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Snake Doctor

Good day all,

I hoping some of you can provide me with a written job description for the DCS position.

Thank You!
Paul Hertel, Lt Col, Civil Air Patrol
Wing Chief Of Staff
Assistant Wing PAO
Illinois Wing

MSG Mac

See CAPR 201-

Deputy Commander mirrors the duties of Squadron Commander. According to the manning chart shown he is esponsible for oversight of all positions not tied into Cadet Programs. 
Michael P. McEleney
Lt Col CAP
MSG USA (Retired)
50 Year Member

Snake Doctor

I know that.  I'm trying to not have to reinvent the wheel by asking for an already written job description
for The Deputy Commander for Seniors.

Thank you.

Paul Hertel, Lt Col, Civil Air Patrol
Wing Chief Of Staff
Assistant Wing PAO
Illinois Wing

EMT-83

The position description for listed for Squadron Commander in 20-1 would be a good start.

Select the items to be delegated to the deputy.

bosshawk

Like the Vice President of the United States: to inquire discretely each morning as to the state of the President's health(just substitute Sq CC).  Other than that, you do what the CC assigns to you.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Eclipse

Quote from: bosshawk on March 25, 2011, 03:01:38 PM
Like the Vice President of the United States: to inquire discretely each morning as to the state of the President's health(just substitute Sq CC).  Other than that, you do what the CC assigns to you.
Um....no.

Unlike the Vice-President, in properly run squadron the CC should be involved only in oversight, scope, and whole-unit tasks, whereas the CD's are
charged with wrench-tuning for their respective programs.


"That Others May Zoom"

ol'fido

Paul,

IMHO the DCS should probably be about the same thing as a Chief of Staff in function. Is there a job description for that?
Lt. Col. Randy L. Mitchell
Historian, Group 1, IL-006

bosshawk

There should be a job description for a Chief of Staff somewhere in the malestrom of regs in CAP.  If I remember correctly, the CoS only exists at Wing or Region level.

I was a DCS two or three times and what I did was usually to mirror what the CC did or wanted me to do.

My remark about the position being similar to the VPUSA was intended to be humorous: some of the CT folks missed the humor.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Thrashed

Squadron Commander
Squadron commanders are responsible to the corporation and to the wing commander (or group commander if applicable) for ensuring that the corporation objectives, policies, and operational directives are effectively executed within their squadron. They shall:
Establish plans, policies, and procedures necessary to the fulfillment of the CAP mission, which are not in conflict with the directives of higher headquarters.
Keep informed of the accomplishments, problems, and degree of compliance with regulations and other directives through personal observations, inspections, reports, and staff meetings.
Comply with all policies, regulations, and directives of higher headquarters and require the same compliance by all members of the squadron.
Ensure safety of personnel and equipment through compliance with directives and policy guidance; ensure an effective safety awareness, education, and inspection program within the unit.
CAPR 20-1 (E) 27
Select personnel to fill authorized staff positions and remove from staff position those members deemed unqualified or otherwise unsuitable to continue in their positions.
Establish policies and procedures to ensure an effective squadron recruiting and retention program.
Coordinate the activities of staff officers to prevent overlapping of functions and to resolve conflicts.
Eliminate members whose continued membership is determined undesirable in accordance with the provisions of CAPR 35-3.
Identify members for nonrenewal where continued membership is adverse to the best interests of CAP in accordance with provisions of CAPM 39-2.
Determine meeting dates and attendance requirements for squadron meetings in accordance with policies established by higher headquarters.
Ensure that new personnel are properly introduced to CAP and make frequent checks on their progress.
Ensure that squadron property and funds are properly safeguarded and accounted for.
Initiate requests for promotion of squadron members.
Ensure proper wear of the uniform and that violations are promptly corrected.
Ensure that complaints and grievances are resolved fairly, impartially, and promptly.
Initiate recommendations for awards and decorations for squadron members.
Initiate organization actions affecting their squadron (charter redesignations, address changes, etc.).
Refer to the next higher headquarters problems that cannot be resolved at squadron level.
Promote an understanding and appreciation of CAP in the local community.
Promote aerospace education.
Squadron commanders should be familiar with the Civil Air Patrol Constitution and Bylaws, CAP governing directives, and all policy matters affecting their command.
NOTE: The duties above also apply to the deputy squadron commander. Squadron commanders should develop a detailed position description for their deputy, outlining his/her specific duties and responsibilities in support of the overall squadron mission.

Save the triangle thingy

bosshawk

Sort of like the Rules of Rogers Rangers in the Revolutionary War: don't forget nothing.

I seem to recall that, when processing into Viet Nam, we were handed a card holding Rogers Rules and told to carry it at all times.
Paul M. Reed
Col, USA(ret)
Former CAP Lt Col
Wilson #2777

Angus

I figure I don't want to start a new thread cause I can piggy back on this and keep all the DCS stuff together.  And this question also encompasses DCC's as well.

Are the Deputy Commanders also authorized to wear the Commanders' Badge?  The way I read the regs I would say that they're not.  However I have seen a few Deputies who are wearing the Commanders' Badge.  I just want to double check myself and see if I'm reading the regs right on this one. 
Maj. Richard J. Walsh, Jr.
Director Education & Training MAWG 
 Gill Robb Wilson #4030

ßτε

Quote from: Flint on November 21, 2011, 02:59:37 PM
I figure I don't want to start a new thread cause I can piggy back on this and keep all the DCS stuff together.  And this question also encompasses DCC's as well.

Are the Deputy Commanders also authorized to wear the Commanders' Badge?  The way I read the regs I would say that they're not.  However I have seen a few Deputies who are wearing the Commanders' Badge.  I just want to double check myself and see if I'm reading the regs right on this one.
No.

Angus

Ok so I was right.  Good to know thanks. 
Maj. Richard J. Walsh, Jr.
Director Education & Training MAWG 
 Gill Robb Wilson #4030

capmaj

From the Knowledge base.

The CAP Command Badge was developed to recognize currently serving squadron and group commanders and is worn above the nameplate, as the Air Force does now. The badge is removed when the member is no longer serving in that position. ( APPROVED by Summer National Board, Aug 2003.)

There is no nomination process for the command badge. The command badges may be worn by current squadron and group commanders. Badges may be ordered from Vanguard. See below for details on wear.

Item 8446 BADGE, SQUADRON COMMANDERS
Command Badge for sitting Squadron Commanders only. Worn on the Service coat centered on the right breast parallel to bottom row of ribbons. On the shirts/blouses it is worn 1/2 inch above the nameplate on the right breast. Can also be worn on the Aviator shirt as the one additional CAP badge of choice. Cannot be worn on the CAP blazer.

Angus

Again that's how I read it.  I just wanted to double check that I read it correctly.  I think the individuals who were doing it thought that since "commander" was part of their title it meant them too.  Wouldn't be the first or last time in this organization some one read the regs wrong or made up their own thing. 
Maj. Richard J. Walsh, Jr.
Director Education & Training MAWG 
 Gill Robb Wilson #4030

Major Lord

Deputy Commander for Cadets = CDC
Deputy Commander for Seniors = CDS

Major Lord
Dircetor rof PAC dyslexia
"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."

EMT-83

I wouldn't quote Vanguard as being an authority on CAP regulations.

jimmydeanno

The intent of the badge is to identify those who are in positions where the buck stops.  As much as deputies would like to be commanders, they still don't have command authority - which is what the badge represents.

Although, I don't agree with the knowledgebase placement guidelines, because we wear a nametag on the service coat, so really it should just be placed 1/2" above the nameplate/tag centered.

Simply because the title includes the word commander, doesn't make them a commander.  The "deputy" preceding it tells us that they are in command when the commander is absent - a placeholder. 
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill

Eclipse

Quote from: jimmydeanno on November 21, 2011, 05:05:12 PMAlthough, I don't agree with the knowledgebase placement guidelines, because we wear a nametag on the service coat, so really it should just be placed 1/2" above the nameplate/tag centered.

Isn't that where it is worn?

"That Others May Zoom"

jimmydeanno

Quote from: Eclipse on November 21, 2011, 05:09:53 PM
Quote from: jimmydeanno on November 21, 2011, 05:05:12 PMAlthough, I don't agree with the knowledgebase placement guidelines, because we wear a nametag on the service coat, so really it should just be placed 1/2" above the nameplate/tag centered.

Isn't that where it is worn?

Yes.  But the knowledge base answer above starts talking about making it parallel with the bottom row of ribbons.  "Worn on the Service coat centered on the right breast parallel to bottom row of ribbons." and then goes on to say that on the shirt it should be 1/2" above the nameplate.
If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law. - Winston Churchill