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 21 
 on: Yesterday at 05:01:26 PM 
Started by NIN - Last post by CyBorgII
...or at least did at one time.

 :-X :(

 22 
 on: Yesterday at 04:46:47 PM 
Started by Cicero - Last post by Cicero
Anyone know how to get in touch with Ham Radio contacts to get messages back and forth from PR?

 23 
 on: Yesterday at 04:43:46 PM 
Started by mdickinson - Last post by Spaceman3750
"So this is basically letting folks know that things are going to change and that kind of stuff isn't going to cut it anymore. That if something ain't right, its not cool to just say to your buddy 'Hey, yeah, man, Capt ABC was all over the place on final, glad I don't have to fly with him again this weekend..' and expect that SomeoneElse will somehow notice that Capt ABC probably shouldn't be flying a CAP plane with cadets in it anymore.  That the good old boy "I'll sign you off if you sign me off" dance isn't going to cut it anymore. It even says in the memo 'Donít pass a pilot on a check ride when the pilot does not meet our standards'. We need to be sure that when we're flying CAP iron, we're doing it to the standards.  The Air Force is watching this closely."

"ohhhhh"

To be fair to Capt ABC, everyone has bad days, even pilots. Having one rough landing should not be the sole indicator of a poor pilot. As much as they like to have us believe otherwise, pilots don't execute perfect takeoffs, maneuvers, and landings every time. While that doesn't mean someone shouldn't have a conversation about whether or not that pilot should maybe take the rest of the day off, "he had a bad landing, so let's pull his F5" is not really fair.

 24 
 on: Yesterday at 04:09:00 PM 
Started by NineteenTen - Last post by waukwiz
It doesn't make sense to me to not approve your Prerequisites for that reason, but if a commander does not feel that your mission participation as a trainee would be safe for any reason, they would be well within their rights to deny you approval for your Familiarization & Preparatory tasks. CAPR 60-3 has little guidance regarding any valid reason to not approve someone's Prereqs, however it does state that:
Quote from: CAPR 62-3 2-3b.
[Fam & Preps] represent those skills that will keep the member safe and allow the member to function under supervision without jeopardizing the mission.
Reason it was Not Approved: Member has only been GTL qualified for 4 days and has never been on a real mission. This is not about how many qualifications you can earn in one

Sounds a little surly.

Just explain to whoever disapproved it that you just want to have the prereqs done and taken care of so that it doesn't become a snag when training opportunities arise.

And ask which side of the bed they woke up on this morning. [kidding, that wouldn't help anything]

 25 
 on: Yesterday at 04:08:14 PM 
Started by NineteenTen - Last post by NineteenTen
Thanks for the advice everyone.

 26 
 on: Yesterday at 04:03:04 PM 
Started by NineteenTen - Last post by Spam
1910: concur with the above posts - the standard flow is GTL to GBD without any added time in qual. There is NO REQUIREMENT FOR A "REAL" MISSION anywhere in the regs.


That's good advice to research your Wings supplements.
APPROVED Supps are listed by NHQ at: https://www.capmembers.com/forms_publications__regulations/approved-supps-and-ois---northeast-region/ If you are NJWG, it does not appear that your Wing has any Supplement to 60-3, hence, no such time in rating or number of "actual" missions requirement exists to progress. Wing Supplements can't just be locally approved and put in place - they must be submitted through Region to NHQ for review and approval, so unapproved Supplements (or expired ones from years gone past) should be ignored as invalid. So, armed with that, you can go (politely but FIRMLY) back to your DOS, cite the regs, and ask that he click submit and send it along, as there is no current requirement to hold you back from furthering your training.


Should he/she buck it further, claiming something like, "well, this is a local unit requirement", then cite the following and (I would recommend) involve the unit Commander in the discussion to ensure that your CO is aware of this:
CAPR 60-3 26 DECEMBER 2012
"1-1. Scope. c. When the regulation states that wing commanders can approve various qualifications, it means wing commander or higher."


There are lots of people who'd like to improve our processes and make them more hard core, which is great, but they need to follow the process.


Good luck!
Spam


 27 
 on: Yesterday at 04:00:53 PM 
Started by audiododd - Last post by SarDragon
Point taken.

 28 
 on: Yesterday at 03:57:48 PM 
Started by NineteenTen - Last post by NineteenTen
It doesn't make sense to me to not approve your Prerequisites for that reason, but if a commander does not feel that your mission participation as a trainee would be safe for any reason, they would be well within their rights to deny you approval for your Familiarization & Preparatory tasks. CAPR 60-3 has little guidance regarding any valid reason to not approve someone's Prereqs, however it does state that:
Quote from: CAPR 62-3 2-3b.
[Fam & Preps] represent those skills that will keep the member safe and allow the member to function under supervision without jeopardizing the mission.
Reason it was Not Approved: Member has only been GTL qualified for 4 days and has never been on a real mission. This is not about how many qualifications you can earn in one

 29 
 on: Yesterday at 03:48:52 PM 
Started by NineteenTen - Last post by waukwiz
It doesn't make sense to me to not approve your Prerequisites for that reason, but if a commander does not feel that your mission participation as a trainee would be safe for any reason, they would be well within their rights to deny you approval for your Familiarization & Preparatory tasks. CAPR 60-3 has little guidance regarding any valid reason to not approve someone's Prereqs, however it does state that:
Quote from: CAPR 62-3 2-3b.
[Fam & Preps] represent those skills that will keep the member safe and allow the member to function under supervision without jeopardizing the mission.

 30 
 on: Yesterday at 03:36:30 PM 
Started by NIN - Last post by etodd
"Toxic?"

I haven't seen anything I would describe that way. But I enjoy debate. I enjoy trying to see issues from all sides and evaluating them.

At a CAP seminar type event one time, I asked a question about why something was done that way, and the reply to me was ... "Those decisions are above your grade level."   Now THAT was toxic and didn't go well. He finally gave me a 20 second answer that was perfect, all I needed to know, and should have been given at the start. Never tell a 61 year old business owner that anything is above his grade level. Never demean anyone that way. I'm not a minion/sheep. ;)

Here in the forum, I see it as a place where I can ask those tough questions that I would not want to ask in a Squadron meeting that would get it quickly sidetracked or at a time with Cadets present.

IOW ... I hope this place never just becomes a bunch of CAP cheerleaders, with no place where I can still ask ... why?

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