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Operations => Emergency Services & Operations => Topic started by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 02:50:57 AM

Title: 101 card
Post by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 02:50:57 AM
Ok i have my 101 card but it says 'GES-inactive' on the back. what does that mean? and why is it there if ive taken the tests to get my 101 card?
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on September 29, 2008, 02:59:08 AM
Did you sign on to OPSEC?
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: JoeTomasone on September 29, 2008, 03:17:31 AM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on September 29, 2008, 02:59:08 AM
Did you sign on to OPSEC?

That is almost assuredly the reason.

Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 03:19:27 AM
Sign on? what there a test called that? because i know i had to take a test and that sounds fimilar
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: IceNine on September 29, 2008, 03:20:28 AM
https://tests.cap.af.mil/opsec

Go do this training as well.  Should clear up the problem

No test, its a powerpoint presentation and you click acknowledge at the end.
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 03:50:47 AM
Ok so i already did the powerpoint thing. why does it say inactive? i already search for help and i dont know anyone with this problem. does it matter if it says inactive? because i dont even know what that means. lol
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on September 29, 2008, 03:59:01 AM
Quote from: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 03:50:47 AM
Ok so i already did the powerpoint thing. why does it say inactive? i already search for help and i dont know anyone with this problem. does it matter if it says inactive? because i dont even know what that means. lol

Did your Wing ES officer sign off on the final training?
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 04:17:28 AM
i dont think so. but other people didnt have to go do that
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: CadetProgramGuy on September 29, 2008, 04:23:26 AM
Quote from: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 04:17:28 AM
i dont think so. but other people didnt have to go do that

ES is not my true area of specialty.

I think GES and OPSEC updates automatically.  Rememer I said I THINK!!
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Al Sayre on September 29, 2008, 04:27:28 AM
Have you completed Level 1 if you are a SM or your Curry if you are a Cadet, and have they been posted to eServices?  if not, those will also hang up your card.
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: arajca on September 29, 2008, 04:27:55 AM
Has your Curry (Ach. 1) been posted to Eservices? Without that, nothing is activated.
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Camas on September 29, 2008, 04:31:34 AM
Quote from: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 03:50:47 AMWhy does it say inactive? Does it matter if it says inactive?

Yes it does. It should read "No Expire". If it reads "inactive" your GES isn't valid. There are a number of reasons why it may show "inactive":

Your Level One isn't posted in e-services (seniors).
No Curry posted (cadets).
As mentioned, no OPSEC posted.
No characteristics are entered into e-services such as height, weight, hair and eye color.
Either the CAPT116 (GES) or the IS-100 course are not completed or approved by your commander or a designee such as an ES officer or an operations officer.

Please give these options a "look over"; I believe your problem is listed above.

Quote from: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 04:17:28 AM
I think GES and OPSEC updates automatically.  Rememer I said I THINK!!

The OPSEC should update automatically; it shouldn't need to be approved or validated. The GES is another matter; it needs to be approved as noted.

Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 05:44:13 PM
it says both. and my caracteristics are all entered and i have my pic on it. i did those tests
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: addo1 on September 29, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: fighterpilot! on September 29, 2008, 05:44:13 PM
it says both. and my caracteristics are all entered and i have my pic on it. i did those tests

I would talk to your squadron commander. There may be something waiting for him to approve before it will show as "No Expire."
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Al Sayre on October 01, 2008, 09:02:37 AM
Pull up your GES SQTR in Ops Quals and see what is missing...
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: wingnut55 on October 01, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
don't waste your time call national HQ
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Phil Hirons, Jr. on October 02, 2008, 04:34:58 AM
Quote from: wingnut55 on October 01, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
don't waste your time call national HQ

Really bad advice. This can most likely be resolved by the squadron ES Officer and/or commander.
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Eclipse on October 02, 2008, 05:27:08 AM
Quote from: phirons on October 02, 2008, 04:34:58 AM
Quote from: wingnut55 on October 01, 2008, 11:34:32 PM
don't waste your time call national HQ

Really bad advice. This can most likely be resolved by the squadron ES Officer and/or commander.

Ditto, unless its a legit system issue (doubtful), they will just tell you to contact your commander - NHQ does not approve qualifications.
Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: IceNine on October 02, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
Figherpilot-

You mentioned via PM and other methods that you commander did not have the answer.  This is not particularly uncommon, nor is it an unmanageable problem.

You commander has a few dozen resources at their disposal for correcting problems just like this.  One of those is the ability to view your records, the other is a chain of command.

If you commander/staff cannot provide you the answers you need, ask them <POLITELY> if they will speak with the group staff/commander if they cannot help there is almost certainly someone at the wing level that can.

As I stated before, we can attempt to help but at some point there is the practical reality that we cannot view your records and therefore cannot with any certainty answer your question.

Title: Re: 101 card
Post by: Camas on October 02, 2008, 04:20:50 PM
Quote from: IceNine on October 02, 2008, 02:24:37 PM
Figherpilot- You mentioned via PM and other methods that you commander did not have the answer.  This is not particularly uncommon, nor is it an unmanageable problem. You commander has a few dozen resources at their disposal for correcting problems just like this.  One of those is the ability to view your records, the other is a chain of command.

Ask your commander to check "validations" in his or her "Operation Qualifications" restricted application in e-services from time to time.

Also - ask the commander to check the "Ops Quals Approvals Waiting" link which is also located under restricted applications on the right side menu of the e-services homepage.

If your commander is doing this and nothing shows for you in either application then you have an issue with some of the reasons I listed in my earlier post.