Hey guys, it's not every day that we get to utilize helicopters during CAP ES training but this past weekend during the NY Wing Eval we had a nice surprise. Suffolk County police came down and gave us some nice support to help evacuate a patient with a broken leg and our evaluator was nice enough to, unknown to us at the time, record the exchange. Video below:
Well, that explains why Aviation was buzzing the area around my house for an hour.
Nicely done.
Sweet
Who got to go for the ride?
Major Podell was our lost mountain biker and got to fly for a little bit.
I LOL'd a little bit when the guy was telling everyone to take a knee. I spent plenty of time standing underneath, CH-53 D/Es, CH-46, MV-22 (including the first external lift at Pax River) and other helos. That little beater would be like a light breeze ;D
edi: Oz I think that was you and my intention is not disrespect, just reminded me of younger years.
Ah it's okay. It was habit from dealing with Chinooks and Blackhawks in the Army, they had a lot more rotor wash as you know. We also didn't have time to prep the landing zone and it was coming close to us for the landing, better safe then sorry.
Very cool, this NY wing correct?
Nice! Good to see that some wings are still getting some training like this.
Yeah, this was NY as the title states :-)
When we got our briefing earlier in the day from the heli crew, they did say they want to do more training wih us so hopefully we'll be getting a whole lot more of this. WIWAC (2007-2010), Long Island had a lot more ES resources and worked pretty close with different fire departments and cooperating with... sadly it's not as much anymore. I was hoping to start doing more to get back to it but I'll be moving down to GA in August and thus my plans are gone.
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Had everyone take a knee but left their covers on ;D
Quote from: THRAWN on April 10, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
Nice! Good to see that some wings are still getting some training like this.
Truth!
Glad to see someone actually made some effort to do some multi-agency training (which should be SOP for any training event). Great job!
Quote from: LTC Don on April 24, 2017, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on April 10, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
Nice! Good to see that some wings are still getting some training like this.
Truth!
Glad to see someone actually made some effort to do some multi-agency training (which should be SOP for any training event). Great job!
I really agree with this statement. CAP does not operate alone and should be doing more exercises and drills with other agencies. I've never understood the reluctance of CAP to go out and work with the greater ES community....strike that...in some cases I do understand why....sadly....
Quote from: Ozzy on April 12, 2017, 04:19:51 PM
Yeah, this was NY as the title states :-)
When we got our briefing earlier in the day from the heli crew, they did say they want to do more training wih us so hopefully we'll be getting a whole lot more of this. WIWAC (2007-2010), Long Island had a lot more ES resources and worked pretty close with different fire departments and cooperating with... sadly it's not as much anymore. I was hoping to start doing more to get back to it but I'll be moving down to GA in August and thus my plans are gone.
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was this the only video you took?
Quote from: LTC Don on April 24, 2017, 12:12:48 PMGlad to see someone actually made some effort to do some multi-agency training (which should be SOP for any training event). Great job!
Well it's hard to convince other agencies to play with us when we won't fit into their ICS structure. The Sheriff, being the lead SAR agency in most states puts out the bat signal and requests 4 teams as mutual aid to support their own in-house team. Three teams show up and report to the GBD for instruction. CAP shows up with an agency liaison and forwards all requests to the IC who forwards it to the OSC who forwards it to the GBD who then can't reach the GTL by radio or phone to pass along the instructions.
My wing has been there, done that, haven't been asked back to train since. They of course only call the agencies they train with when the real-deal happens.
Hey, sorry for all the shorthand:
IC = Incident Commander
OSC = Operations Section Chief
GBD = Ground Branch Director
GTL = Ground Team Leader
ICS = Incident Command System
CAP = If you don't know this one, you're lost
Quote from: LTC Don on April 24, 2017, 12:12:48 PM
Quote from: THRAWN on April 10, 2017, 09:37:11 PM
Nice! Good to see that some wings are still getting some training like this.
Truth!
Glad to see someone actually made some effort to do some multi-agency training (which should be SOP for any training event). Great job!
In my experience multi-agency training isn't particularly rare in CAP. Reporting on it is, since we can't share those mission-numbered experiences without PIO or IC permissions. Probably 1/3 of my actual missions as a CUL included coordination with other agencies, so training with those folks makes a ton of sense.
Communications is where I live and breathe, and we periodically exercise with outside groups. Requesting PIO attention wasn't fruitful; PIOs are relatively rare and they have competing requests and personal lives. So I recently earned a PIO rating to brag on communications exercises, including those where we play well with other children. Hopefully we can get the word out, improving awareness and generating interest.