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Operations => Aviation & Flying Activities => Topic started by: Lancer on November 19, 2010, 12:32:36 AM

Title: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: Lancer on November 19, 2010, 12:32:36 AM
Let the speculation begin...

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/18/florida.missing.plane/index.html

Quote from: CNN Website
(CNN) -- An "aircraft incident" involving a civilian plane took place near the Avon Park Bombing Range Air Field, according to a statement Thursday from MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Florida.

The Highlands County Sheriff's Office said earlier Thursday that deputies were assisting in the search for a military plane that was reported missing about 10 p.m. ET.

However, MacDill said it was not a military plane. "The small, fixed-wing civilian aircraft was providing support to a Special Operations Command training exercise," the statement said. "There was no armament on the aircraft or military personnel."

Military officials and local authorities were conducting search and recovery efforts in the area, the base said.

The Avon Park air field is about 90 miles south-southeast of Tampa.

Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: HGjunkie on November 19, 2010, 12:42:07 AM
Avon Park is pretty big. Lot of swampy areas also.
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: a2capt on November 19, 2010, 01:13:49 AM
Hey, a whole airliner can disappear in the Everglades just west of MIA, and it's not even that deep.
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: Lancer on November 19, 2010, 01:46:20 AM
Umm...more to the point "The small, fixed-wing civilian aircraft was providing support to a Special Operations Command training exercise"

CAP Aircraft, perhaps? Maybe? Kinda?

How many other civilian groups that work with the military fly fixed-wing aircraft? Hmmm?
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: RiverAux on November 19, 2010, 03:04:27 AM
But if it was CAP I'm not sure why they wouldn't just say so. 

Given who the training was with, I might suspect a certain "company" of being involved.

Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: Persona non grata on November 19, 2010, 03:49:29 AM
AC was a  Cessna M337B
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: EMT-83 on November 19, 2010, 04:24:48 AM
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=82714
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: lordmonar on November 19, 2010, 05:33:33 AM
Quote from: Lancer on November 19, 2010, 01:46:20 AM
Umm...more to the point "The small, fixed-wing civilian aircraft was providing support to a Special Operations Command training exercise"

CAP Aircraft, perhaps? Maybe? Kinda?

How many other civilian groups that work with the military fly fixed-wing aircraft? Hmmm?
You have no idea!
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: caphornbuckle on November 19, 2010, 07:23:11 AM
Could this aircraft be part of a new organization that is being formed by a previous CAP commander in the Florida area?
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: a2capt on November 19, 2010, 07:55:52 AM
...and there was retribution involved? ;)
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: EMT-83 on November 19, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
Three people were killed in a plane crash. How about a little respect?
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: A.Member on December 04, 2010, 11:14:57 PM
Follow up - Preliminary report says it lost wing prior to impact:

NTSB: Plane lost wing before fatal Avon Park crash
(http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40430151/ns/local_news-tampa_fl/)

The question now becomes why did the wing separate?
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: bosshawk on December 05, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
The NTSB initial report says that it was a C337B(a former AF O-2) which belonged to Patriot Technologies Group, under contract to an unnamed Militiary organization.  The aircraft had been home-based in Fresno, CA.  I happen to know the CEO of the company and had actually been in negotiations to fly that very airplane.  "Nuff said.
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: A.Member on December 06, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: bosshawk on December 05, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
The aircraft had been home-based in Fresno, CA.  I happen to know the CEO of the company and had actually been in negotiations to fly that very airplane.  "Nuff said.
???  I'm not sure what that has to do with this incident.
Title: Re: 'Aircraft Incident'?
Post by: DakRadz on December 06, 2010, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: A.Member on December 06, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: bosshawk on December 05, 2010, 09:33:38 PM
The aircraft had been home-based in Fresno, CA.  I happen to know the CEO of the company and had actually been in negotiations to fly that very airplane.  "Nuff said.
???  I'm not sure what that has to do with this incident.

As in, we could have been reading about the loss of one of our one?

Think about it- if the plane lost a wing, more than likely it could have happened to anyone- including bosshawk.