Find ribbon criteria

Started by Westernslope, June 26, 2005, 10:07:20 PM

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Westernslope

At an squadron meeting recently,  the DCC advised cadets  they were now eligible to wear the Find Ribbon since they located the ELT during a SAREX.  My understanding is that Find Ribbons are only awarded for actual Missions rather than training missions.  The regs seem pretty clear on this to me. Am I missing something or have things changed since I left the world of ES?



Pace

To earn the Search "Find" ribbon, you must:

1) Participate in an actual (not practice) tasked mission.
2) Actually be on the search team (not just a ES rated member of the squadron that gets the find).
3) Locate the objective (ELT/missing person(s)).
4) Be certified on a CAPF 2a by the wing commander (or delegate) to wear the ribbon.

Further guidance can be found in CAPR 39-3, Section A, 21.d.

For your situation, if the target was a practice ELT, then no.  If you happened to be at a SAREX and your team was tasked to find an actual ELT (and you found it), then yes.  Just make sure to get that CAPF 2a filled out and signed by your wing king (or delegate).
Lt Col, CAP

Westernslope

Thanks - that is what I thought  :)

The DCC is so new, I am not sure he even knows to submit the 2A.  If he does, I am sure it will bounce back from Wing.

Skyray

It has been a while since I was active out there on the tarmac, but Florida has a lot of EPIRB missions, and they had one additional criteria.  It had to be a distress find.  Doesn't say anything about it in the book, but try getting one approved for an inadvertant actuation.
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member

Pace

First find, distress or nondistress, garners the Find ribbon.  After that, each distress find garners a bronze clasp, and 20 nondistress finds garner a bronze clasp.  Five bronze clasps garner a silver clasp.
Lt Col, CAP

Skyray

Florida has been making up its own rules since I joined, and frankly, I am told, for a long time before that.  The management around here (on the board) doesn't want me to get too specific, so I won't, but I have literally hundreds of nondistress finds, and was either mission staff or mission pilot on five crashed airplanes, all of which we found.  Since the sheriff was the one that pulled the bodies out of the wreckage, no one was awarded a find.  Without the first find, there is nothing to put a clasp on.  Don't wear the uniform anyway, so it never really bothered me much till I started thinking about it just now.  I know what the book says, that just ain't the way it's done around here.
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member

Cadet Bonnett

Cadet A1C Christin Bonnett
Registered Peer Mediator
SET, GES Certified
NH Wing

El Campamento del Ala de NH aquí yo vengo.

MIKE

Quote from: Cheergirl on June 28, 2005, 12:36:50 AM
what is the find ribbon... ???

Find Ribbon:


Quote from: CAPR 39-3 AWARD OF CAP MEDALS, RIBBONS, AND CERTIFICATESd. Search "Find" Ribbon. Awarded by the wing
commander (or a subordinate commander if authority is
delegated by the wing commander) to any CAP member
of the wing making a find (distress or nondistress) on a
search and rescue mission. A "distress find" is defined
as one involving downed aircraft or persons in distress.
Normally, a definite search objective must have been
assigned, located, and positively identified. All other
finds will be classified as "nondistress," e.g., location of
nondistress emergency locator transmitters (ELTs). The
basic ribbon is awarded for a first find (distress or
nondistress). A bronze clasp is awarded for each
additional distress find or for each additional 20
nondistress finds. Both aircrew and ground team
members may receive credit for finds. Also, if desired,
the Search "Find' Ribbon may be painted on the aircraft
in which the find was made.
(1) Finds for the United States Coast Guard
(USCG) or the USCG Auxiliary. Exceptions to the above
criteria may be made for finds accomplished during
missions conducted in concert with the USCG or USCG
Auxiliary. The bulk, of this joint effort consists of CAP
flying patrol missions commonly referred to as "sundown
patrol." When a CAP member or crew locates a boat or
persons in distress and is instrumental in their discovery,
credit for a distress find may be granted and a "find"
ribbon awarded, provided the effort is classified as an
"assist" by the USCG.
(2) Finds by Aircrew Members. In case of
a search and rescue find by aircraft, a ribbon will be
awarded to all crew members. This applies to both "find
and rescue" operations and "find and report" operations.
For example, when the search objective is sighted, rescue
by aircraft may be impossible so the crew reports the find
by relaying the information to an official ground station.
A bronze three-bladed propeller device will be worn
centered on the Search "Find" Ribbon earned as aircrew
members.
(3) Finds by Ground Personnel. If the find
is made by search and rescue ground teams, the ribbon
will be awarded to all members of the team which locates
the objective. Ground personnel will wear the Search
"Find" Ribbon without the propeller clasp.
(4) Combined Participation. A member
who earns the Search "Find" Ribbon as an aircrew
member is identified as an aircrew member by having the
bronze propeller attached to the ribbon. If the same
individuals earn a clasp as a ground member who makes
a find, they are authorized to attach the clasp to the same
ribbon with the bronze propeller. This also applies to the
individual who initially earns the Search "Find" Ribbon
as a member of a ground search party and at some later
date makes a find as an aircrew member. The member is
then authorized to attach the bronze propeller to the
ribbon.
Mike Johnston

Pylon

Quote from: Cheergirl
what is the find ribbon... ???

While Mike was very kind to look up all the important information, cut and paste it, and present it neatly packed for you - you will need to learn to look up these important basics on your own.

For very basic questions, such as "What is the Mitchell Award" or "What is the Find Ribbon" try going to the CAP Knowledgebase at http://capnhq.custhelp.com

The CAP Knowledgebase can often answer these basic facts.  :)
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Cadet Bonnett

thanks. My computer however does not let me on PDF files for some stupid reason....
Cadet A1C Christin Bonnett
Registered Peer Mediator
SET, GES Certified
NH Wing

El Campamento del Ala de NH aquí yo vengo.

Pylon

Quote from: Cheergirl on June 28, 2005, 11:49:34 PM
thanks. My computer however does not let me on PDF files for some stupid reason....

The Knowledgebase has nothing to do with Adobe Acrobat or PDF files.  It is a regular website.  Check it out first, before you discount it.
Michael F. Kieloch, Maj, CAP

Cadet Bonnett

i was on earlier it was awesome...
Cadet A1C Christin Bonnett
Registered Peer Mediator
SET, GES Certified
NH Wing

El Campamento del Ala de NH aquí yo vengo.

abysmal

Quote from: Skyray on June 27, 2005, 01:55:14 AM
The management around here (on the board) doesn't want me to get too specific, so I won't.
Said with such care.. :)
2LT Christopher M. Parrett
[red]Deputy Commander of Cadets, Cadet Programs Officer[/red]
London Bridge Composite Squadron 501
SWR-AZ-112,  Lake Havasu City, Arizona

Skyray

Quote from: abysmal on July 07, 2005, 12:18:57 AM
Quote from: Skyray on June 27, 2005, 01:55:14 AM
The management around here (on the board) doesn't want me to get too specific, so I won't.
Said with such care.. :)

They're right, you know, but I am a passionate person especially on such subjects as free speech.  The primary consideration here is that I haven't been a member for nearly seven years, and anything I have to say on the subject is water long under the bridge.  Thus it's probably better to subdue my passion and not say it.  Florida is getting better.  There is now a Spaatzen in charge as Wing Commander, and frankly, he impresses me.  I know his daddy, so I'm biased.
Doug Johnson - Miami

Always Active-Sometimes a Member