Curiosity regarding uniforms...

[CAP428]

Just a thought I was thinking about earlier today....

If I remember correctly, not only do senior members have to meet height/weight requirements to wear the AF style uniforms, so do cadets 18 years and older.


So what if there was an older-than-18 cadet that did not meet the height/weight requirements?  Cadets don't have the option of going corporate on uniforms...

[Ford73Diesel]

According to CAPM 39-1, 4-1

Cadet members are authorized to wear the CAP utility uniform, field uniform and balzer combination as desired.

Its required for cadets who do not meet grooming / height/ weight for USAF uniform and are over 18.


edited to add stuff

[MIKE]

Yes they do.  Cadets can wear the new corporate uniform and most of the CAP distinctive uniforms.

[CadetProgramGuy]

According to CAPR 52-16, and 39-1,  the uniform for the cadets is USAF, not corporates.

Correcting self....

39-1 4-1,

4-1. General. Cadet members are authorized to wear the CAP utility uniform, field uniform, and blazer
combinations as desired. All senior members, including those who do not meet the standards of wear for an
Air Force style uniform for reasons of grooming or weight standards, may wear any of the CAP distinctive
uniform combinations described in this chapter.

[ZigZag911]

According to CAPR 52-16, and 39-1,  the uniform for the cadets is USAF, not corporates.

Correcting self....

39-1 4-1,

4-1. General. Cadet members are authorized to wear the CAP utility uniform, field uniform, and blazer
combinations as desired. All senior members, including those who do not meet the standards of wear for an
Air Force style uniform for reasons of grooming or weight standards, may wear any of the CAP distinctive
uniform combinations described in this chapter.

Institution of TPU is more recent than latest version of 52-16, and it was clearly stated that cadets not meeting USAF weight standards could wear TPU....there needs to be a change to 52-16  to reflect this.

[Ford73Diesel]

Institution of TPU is more recent than latest version of 52-16, and it was clearly stated that cadets not meeting USAF weight standards could wear TPU....there needs to be a change to 52-16  to reflect this.

Wouldn't a change to CAPM 39-1, the sole uniform source, to reflect it be more usefull?

[CAP428]

Gotcha.  I didn't realize cadets over 18 had the option of corporate uniforms.

[Larry Mangum]

TPU = ?

[MIKE]

TPU = ?

Tony Pineda Uniform.  Is to the Corporate Uniform as Blue BDUs is to the Field Uniform.

[Larry Mangum]

Okay, that is what I thought.

[RogueLeader]

Okay, that is what I thought.

Don't worry, took me awhile to figure it out too. 

[Ford73Diesel]

Okay, that is what I thought.

Don't worry, took me awhile to figure it out too. 

Tookme at least a month, until somone used the term "TP", that was the key to the car....

[Major Carrales]

Tony Pineda Uniform. 

You know...that might not be the best way to refer to that uniform combo.

I mean, just to be fair.  I recall discussions over terms like "Class A" uniforms, "blues" and the like where people, including myself, have been hammered for it.  Referring to this a the "TPU" seems to be more of a faux pas when said "on purpose" (maybe as an insult) than when some 20 year veteran of the US Army (or new cadet, likely an Army Brat) using a term from their experience based solely on ignorance of CAP terminolgy, culture and regs slips up.

Flame away...

[JC004]

Tony Pineda Uniform. 

You know...that might not be the best way to refer to that uniform combo.

I mean, just to be fair.  I recall discussions over terms like "Class A" uniforms, "blues" and the like where people, including myself, have been hammered for it.  Referring to this a the "TPU" seems to be more of a faux pas when said "on purpose" (maybe as an insult) than when some 20 year veteran of the US Army (or new cadet, likely an Army Brat) using a term from their experience based solely on ignorance of CAP terminolgy, culture and regs slips up.

Flame away...

But...but...it's National's fault for not coming up with a decent name for the uniform.   

[Ford73Diesel]

Tony Pineda Uniform. 

You know...that might not be the best way to refer to that uniform combo.

I mean, just to be fair.  I recall discussions over terms like "Class A" uniforms, "blues" and the like where people, including myself, have been hammered for it.  Referring to this a the "TPU" seems to be more of a faux pas when said "on purpose" (maybe as an insult) than when some 20 year veteran of the US Army (or new cadet, likely an Army Brat) using a term from their experience based solely on ignorance of CAP terminolgy, culture and regs slips up.

Flame away...

Very legit point.

[Sgt. Savage]

TPU.... Kinda funny... for a second anyway. We just call it the Bus Driver Uniform around here.

[SAR-EMT1]

Why not call it the TPU? He is the General, he is the one that invented it, and isn't it the birthright of every General to have a legacy?


Besides TPU sounds better then "bus driver uniform" ...even if it looks the same.

[Major Carrales]

Why not call it the TPU? He is the General, he is the one that invented it, and isn't it the birthright of every General to have a legacy?


Besides TPU sounds better then "bus driver uniform" ...even if it looks the same.

What's good for the GOOSE is good for the GANDER.  If it is  not right to call "service dress" class "A" or refer to a 1st Lt as 1LT and a Lt Col as LTC; then it should follow that this uniform not be called "TPU."  Unless it appear that way in print.

Now, there is that CAP culture issue, the same sort that calls the "New Serice Coat" the McPeak via "Air Force Culture."

I guess there is a balance that must be reached.

[arajca]

Why not call it the TPU? He is the General, he is the one that invented it, and isn't it the birthright of every General to have a legacy?


Besides TPU sounds better then "bus driver uniform" ...even if it looks the same.

What's good for the GOOSE is good for the GANDER.  If it is  not right to call "service dress" class "A" or refer to a 1st Lt as 1LT and a Lt Col as LTC; then it should follow that this uniform not be called "TPU."  Unless it appear that way in print.

Now, there is that CAP culture issue, the same sort that calls the "New Serice Coat" the McPeak via "Air Force Culture."

I guess there is a balance that must be reached.

After it was first introduced, I began using the terms "corporate or CAP service dress" and " AF service dress" to differentiate between them. I got several comments about why was I calling the TPU something besides the TPU. I also use "Corporate Blue" and "Corporate Grey" to identify the the two flavors of aviator shirt uniforms. Simple and descriptive.

[JC004]

Why not call it the TPU? He is the General, he is the one that invented it, and isn't it the birthright of every General to have a legacy?


Besides TPU sounds better then "bus driver uniform" ...even if it looks the same.

What's good for the GOOSE is good for the GANDER.  If it is  not right to call "service dress" class "A" or refer to a 1st Lt as 1LT and a Lt Col as LTC; then it should follow that this uniform not be called "TPU."  Unless it appear that way in print.

Now, there is that CAP culture issue, the same sort that calls the "New Serice Coat" the McPeak via "Air Force Culture."

I guess there is a balance that must be reached.

After it was first introduced, I began using the terms "corporate or CAP service dress" and " AF service dress" to differentiate between them. I got several comments about why was I calling the TPU something besides the TPU. I also use "Corporate Blue" and "Corporate Grey" to identify the the two flavors of aviator shirt uniforms. Simple and descriptive.

I wonder if it works like the dictionary...if it gets used enough, it'll make its way into 39-1.