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General Discussion => Hysterical History => Topic started by: ascorbate on November 13, 2008, 10:10:33 PM

Title: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: ascorbate on November 13, 2008, 10:10:33 PM
Would anyone know when CAP National Headquarters started numbering:

1) the Billy Mitchell Award,

and

2) the Amelia Earhart Award?
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on November 13, 2008, 10:27:20 PM
I'm pretty sure they always did.

They even assigned numbers to the old Certificate of Proficiency, IIRC.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: Gunner C on November 13, 2008, 11:09:05 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on November 13, 2008, 10:27:20 PM
I'm pretty sure they always did.

They even assigned numbers to the old Certificate of Proficiency, IIRC.

Neither my Mitchell nor Earhart awards are numbered.  I got them in the 1960s.

Gunner
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on November 14, 2008, 12:20:47 AM
Numbering began on the current Mitchell and Earhart certificates in January 1979. Prior to that, they were unnumbered.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: jimmydeanno on November 14, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
They also don't number the ones that people call in for...

"Well, I was a cadet before the Eaker existed and I want an Eaker certificate..." kind of calls.

In a few months I should be able to tell you exactly when they started...
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: BillB on November 14, 2008, 01:00:07 PM
The old Cadet COP's were also unnumbered
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on November 14, 2008, 01:50:06 PM
There was a stamped number on the back of my Mitchell in 1966.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: Pylon on November 14, 2008, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on November 14, 2008, 01:50:06 PM
There was a stamped number on the back of my Mitchell in 1966.

00001?   >:D
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: CAPLAW on November 14, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
I recived my EAKER IN 1998 WITH 0 STAMPED ON IT.   No idea why.  Misprint? or number left out
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: desertengineer1 on November 14, 2008, 03:59:15 PM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2008, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on November 14, 2008, 01:50:06 PM
There was a stamped number on the back of my Mitchell in 1966.

00001?   >:D

Ouchies....
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on November 14, 2008, 06:55:47 PM
Quote from: CAPLAW on November 14, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
I recived my EAKER IN 1998 WITH 0 STAMPED ON IT.   No idea why.  Misprint? or number left out

Eaker award certificates began to be issued around 2002.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) If you furnished proof to NHQ CAP that you completed all achievements of the cadet program (before taking the Spaatz) prior to the introduction of the Eaker, you're issued an unnumbered (or in this case, numbered 0) certificate.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: Duke Dillio on November 14, 2008, 07:47:43 PM
IIRC, I got my Eaker in 1999.  The date on eServices is 14 Jul 1995.  There is no number associated with it.  Looking on eServices, I also see that my Mitchell number isn't listed.  Anyone know where I can get that and new copies of all of my certificates (destroyed during car crash)?
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: wacapgh on November 14, 2008, 08:12:37 PM
Earhart began numbering in 1979 (hence the very low number on mine).
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: Al Sayre on November 14, 2008, 08:17:54 PM
My Mitchell in 1977 was un-numbered...
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: ascorbate on November 14, 2008, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on November 14, 2008, 06:55:47 PM
Eaker award certificates began to be issued around 2002.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) If you furnished proof to NHQ CAP that you completed all achievements of the cadet program (before taking the Spaatz) prior to the introduction of the Eaker, you're issued an unnumbered (or in this case, numbered 0) certificate.

Does anyone have any more details (eg. what CAP Regulation) where getting an un-numbered Eaker Award (upon completion of the Spaatz) might be discussed?
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: AlphaSigOU on November 15, 2008, 02:20:51 PM
Quote from: ascorbate on November 14, 2008, 10:16:44 PM
Quote from: AlphaSigOU on November 14, 2008, 06:55:47 PM
Eaker award certificates began to be issued around 2002.  (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) If you furnished proof to NHQ CAP that you completed all achievements of the cadet program (before taking the Spaatz) prior to the introduction of the Eaker, you're issued an unnumbered (or in this case, numbered 0) certificate.

Does anyone have any more details (eg. what CAP Regulation) where getting an un-numbered Eaker Award (upon completion of the Spaatz) might be discussed?

As far as I can remember there's no specific reg cite; not a problem since you've earned the Spaatz. Contact Jennifer Carroll at NHQ CAP (jcarroll@capnhq.gov) for more info.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: SilverEagle2 on November 15, 2008, 02:49:51 PM
QuoteDoes anyone have any more details (eg. what CAP Regulation) where getting an un-numbered Eaker Award (upon completion of the Spaatz) might be discussed?

Look Here (http://capnhq.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/capnhq.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=675&p_created=1039038413&p_sid=TDioxYij&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MjgsMjgmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHlwZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PUVha2Vy&p_li=&p_topview=1)

Got mine in days. Fortunately, National had my Eaker already posted so I only had to request it.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: JohnKachenmeister on November 16, 2008, 12:44:57 PM
Quote from: Pylon on November 14, 2008, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: JohnKachenmeister on November 14, 2008, 01:50:06 PM
There was a stamped number on the back of my Mitchell in 1966.

00001?   >:D

Not quite.

But my pilot certificate was signed by Wilbur Wright!   ;D
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: Cecil DP on November 17, 2008, 05:55:33 AM
Quote from: wacapgh on November 14, 2008, 08:12:37 PM
Earhart began numbering in 1979 (hence the very low number on mine).

I seem to recall that when I was a cadet. Our Cadet Commander received one of the first Earhart's and stated that it was number 14 in the nation. This was in 1965. Could they have been numbering them and than stopped the practice only to restart again??
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: PA Guy on November 17, 2008, 06:18:57 AM
Received a COP/Mitchell in Apr '65 and it is un-numbered.
Title: Re: When did CAPNHQ start numbering the Mitchell & Earhart awards?
Post by: wacapgh on November 17, 2008, 09:14:36 PM
Quote from: Cecil DP on November 17, 2008, 05:55:33 AM
Quote from: wacapgh on November 14, 2008, 08:12:37 PM
Earhart began numbering in 1979 (hence the very low number on mine).

I seem to recall that when I was a cadet. Our Cadet Commander received one of the first Earhart's and stated that it was number 14 in the nation. This was in 1965. Could they have been numbering them and than stopped the practice only to restart again??

Something like that would have to have happened.

I'm #302 in Dec of 79 and Captain Corway has #1257 sometime in 1982, works out pretty close to about 300 a year.