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Title: AETCF 341
Post by: floridacyclist on August 11, 2007, 11:21:42 PM
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Remember 341s? Lt Floyd found a source for them and wants me to convert them to PDF so she can print them in bulk.
Quote- Shorning For what purpose?  What do they provide that can't be done in a more appropriate way?
Not sure what is inappropriate about the excellence/disrepancy report. WIWAC, we all carried 3 of them in our shirt pocket and staff could pull one if they saw us do something good or bad and then turn them in to the DCC. They let the DCC know what we were up to when he wasn't there and keep track of our attaboys or dings just like merits/demerits.
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: MIKE on August 12, 2007, 12:01:46 AM
Some people don't think they work very well, and have a tendency to be abused... but if you have a copy that is in PDF instead of the original IMT that you can attach, some people might like to try 'em.

I still have an unused 341 tacked to my cork board from my cadet daze.
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: floridacyclist on August 12, 2007, 04:02:24 AM
http://www.tallahasseecap.org/pdfs/form341.pdf
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: Tim Medeiros on August 18, 2007, 03:12:29 AM
this may also help, AFROTC 341
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: ZigZag911 on August 19, 2007, 01:48:00 AM
With CAP cadet encampments, my observation over many years has been that 341 forms turn either into a bit of a game or joke, OR are used as a tool o intimidation by insecure.inexperienced cadet staffers (occasionally seniors, too!)

In general good instruction, mentoring (including peer mentoring) and appropriate counseling (unkempt appearance can be handled by flight staff; repeated insubordination may eventually require interbention by commandant of cadets or chaplain) are far more effective teaching tools and behavior modifiers.
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: floridacyclist on August 21, 2007, 11:11:02 PM
Sounds like y'alls were almost always used negatively. We tried to keep as high a score as possible for getting them pulled for good things.
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: PHall on August 22, 2007, 02:01:39 AM
Even in the "real" Air Force, if AETC can be called "real", they get abused.
Yeah, they're supposed to be given out when you do something right, but very few are.
If I had to put a number on it I would say that maybe 1 out of 5 is a positive 341.
Title: Re: AETCF 341
Post by: ZigZag911 on August 22, 2007, 10:34:52 PM
If they were in fact used more for positive reinforcement, then they would be a useful training tool.