Entering completion of ICS300/700/800 online

[Eclipse]

I need to update ICS completion for a number of members (including myself), but for the life of me can't find where I'd do that.

I need to do it in both the WMU and eServices.

As a Commander, SET, and one of the state's "ES people" I should have the rights, assuming someone can point me to the the check boxes.

[D2SK]

Operations qualifications> Emergency services> Multi person achievement> select the ICS course(s).  WMU will automatically update within a day or so.

[Camas]

Operations qualifications> Emergency services> Multi person achievement> select the ICS course(s).  WMU will automatically update within a day or so.

To add to that, you want to be into the "Operations Qualifcations" link on the right side of the e-services homepage under "Restricted Applications". Make sure you have that showing; if not you need to check with your web security administrator. As a commander and ES officer you should have those permissions automatically granted to you.

As a Commander, SET, and one of the state's "ES people" I should have the rights, assuming someone can point me to the the check boxes.

If you are serving in ES at the group or wing level then you'll want to be sure you have either group or wing permission. Otherwise you'll only be able to update members in your own unit. Hope this helps.

[Eclipse]

Beautiful, danke.  Worked as indicated, no problem.

Has anyone heard what's actually going to happen "turn in to a pumpkin-wise" on 01/01/09 for people who don't get the
requirement completed?

Is this going to be automatic, or another of these "no one noticed and he's been out of currency for 8 months..."?

[jimmydeanno]

My wing has been sending out weekly reports showing who still needs to complete an ICS course to keep their qualifications.  The list is getting smaller, so someone is noticing.  I know that I'm keeping tabs on what qualified members I have.

It should drop off their 101 cards, I would assume.  But I haven't seen any communication as to what actually happens or how it will show up/be apparant to us...

[Short Field]

There is a new report called "Missing NIMS Training" in eServices.  It is in the Operational Qualifications Module under Reports.  It lists each member's Ops Quals and shows if  they have met all the NIMS training required to keep the qualification.  What is neat is that it does it for each Ops Qual and is color coded. 

[Phil Hirons, Jr.]

At the NER Conf STRATOPS meeting they announced that the NHQ IT people had the database code to remove ES Quals for missing NIMS set to run after the first of the year. Having seen the report described below, I believe it. 

Tick Tock people.

[RiverAux]

Cool report.  Looks like my wing is going to lose about 50-75% of its ES capability if we don't get off the stick.  Even if we get the basic air and ground crews through the online courses, about 25-50% of our upper level base staff hasn't done 300. 

[KyCAP]

Must need to be in Wing OPS to have the report show up.

If the course isn't scheduled to be attended and if your state is like KY, then well.. It's slim chance in seeing one before the deadline.

[Short Field]

It must pop up for all ICs as well.  I also think you should be able to get it if for your squadron if your SQ/CC grants you permissions or you have a ES related job.

[KyCAP]

Nope.. or I am looking in wrong place.

IC2  here

[Eclipse]

Mine shows all the members in my Group, and its a bloody red report, however having to deal with the WMU vs. eServices contest isn't making it any easier, because i know a lot of the red on this report has been entered on the WMU. 

[Short Field]

I know a lot of people are stuck on the WMU, but when it comes to ES qualications, you really need to be entering them in the Operational Qualifications module in eServices.

I just checked my data in the WMU.  The only ICS course I had credit for was ICS 400.  I actually have 100, 200, 300, 400, 700, and 800 (plus a couple of others CAP doesn't track).

My CAPF 101 showed the correct Ops Quals but did not list any of the ICS courses I had completed.  It also did not show if I was CD qualified.

Go with eServices and not the WMU whenever you have the option.  Duplicate functions are being phased out of the WMU.

[Eclipse]

Go with eServices and not the WMU whenever you have the option. 

I agree, however currently my Wing is not afforded the option.

[KyCAP]

?  All e-services data is synched FROM e-services at 6AM each morning.  So, if the data is duplicative the data from e-services should overwrite WMU.   If you're having that kind of problem then email Pete Anderson and ask him who the person is from your wing that should be made aware of this issue. 

[Dutchboy]

Has anyone heard what's actually going to happen "turn in to a pumpkin-wise" on 01/01/09 for people who don't get the
requirement completed?[/i]?

I have heard about it, but where is the documentation for it found, I would like to get a copy of it.

[Short Field]

If you are talking about the requirement, this is the link to it.  As to how they intend to drop the ops quals in eServices, I don't know.

http://members.gocivilairpatrol.com/media/cms/2008_04_10_NIMS.pdf

[Eclipse]

?  All e-services data is synched FROM e-services at 6AM each morning.  So, if the data is duplicative the data from e-services should overwrite WMU.   If you're having that kind of problem then email Pete Anderson and ask him who the person is from your wing that should be made aware of this issue. 

Not all data is synced, and when its synced you lose history that my wing requires (ie sign-offs just say "MIMS").

Believe me I've been rolling the rock up the hill on this for a long time.

[Camas]

It must pop up for all ICs as well. 

Nope.. or I am looking in wrong place. IC2  here

Go to "Operations Qualifications" under "restricted applications" and then to "reports".  In the dropdown menu go to "Missing NIMS Training". You should find what you're looking for there. As an IC you should have access to this permission.

[RiverAux]

I'm still predicting that we are on the verge of receiving a notice that the deadlines are going to be pushed back 6-12 months.  Especially now that this report is floating around and all the Wing Commanders see how badly off they are and start clamoring for more time.