ICUT Skills Evaluator

Started by NJcadet, August 19, 2014, 12:13:07 AM

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SarDragon

Then make the old guy an Ass't Comm Officer, and be done with it.
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JeffDG

Quote from: SarDragon on August 25, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
Then make the old guy an Ass't Comm Officer, and be done with it.

Unless, of course, he's an IG.

Luis R. Ramos

Then why the heck did that squadron commander named that logistics person Comm Officer instead of the CUL? Twisted reasoning? Make one an Asst Comm Officer.
Squadron Safety Officer
Squadron Communication Officer
Squadron Emergency Services Officer

JoeTomasone

Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on August 25, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
Then why the heck did that squadron commander named that logistics person Comm Officer instead of the CUL? Twisted reasoning? Make one an Asst Comm Officer.

Because sadly the job is mostly logisitics. 

Eclipse

Quote from: JoeTomasone on August 25, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on August 25, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
Then why the heck did that squadron commander named that logistics person Comm Officer instead of the CUL? Twisted reasoning? Make one an Asst Comm Officer.

Because sadly the job is mostly logistics.

+1 Being a CUL is an operational job, being a DC is managing assets and training.


"That Others May Zoom"

Luis R. Ramos

So you do not consider training to be related to Logistics?
Squadron Safety Officer
Squadron Communication Officer
Squadron Emergency Services Officer

SarDragon

Quote from: JoeTomasone on August 25, 2014, 09:45:20 PM
Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on August 25, 2014, 08:54:40 PM
Then why the heck did that squadron commander named that logistics person Comm Officer instead of the CUL? Twisted reasoning? Make one an Asst Comm Officer.

Because sadly the job is mostly logisitics logistics.

True dat. Sadly, there is frequently a disconnect between what CAPP 214 says are the duties of a CUL, and what they are actually doing in the field. I've seen many instances of the CUL being the comm supervisor, actually the senior MRO, instead of sitting back after setting up the comm station, and letting the operators run the show like they are supposed to. As the more senior CULs depart, I think this will work itself out. We've managed the transition in duties pretty well in my unit.
Dave Bowles
Maj, CAP
AT1, USN Retired
50 Year Member
Mitchell Award (unnumbered)
C/WO, CAP, Ret

Eclipse

Quote from: Luis R. Ramos on August 25, 2014, 09:51:34 PM
So you do not consider training to be related to Logistics?

Not unless it's training >in< Logistics, which in CAP = "nothing but ORMS".

CAP has a Grand-Canyon-sized whole in ES Operations regarding Logistics,
essentially we don't do much of anything other then check boxes, makes coffee and
get people lunch.

As someone who has been sent places for CAP with no Logistical support whatsoever,
I have seen first hand how detrimental to OPS it is when you have to worry about
saving lives >and< whether you still have a base camp, or someplace to poop.

"That Others May Zoom"

a2capt

You mean CAP has the whole Grand Canyon at a mission base? No wonder the aircraft are always so far from the de-briefing table. ;)