In case you wanted to know everything about the new ACUs for the Army...
http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/06/01/acu-uniform-camouflage-rollout/28166585/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin= (http://www.armytimes.com/story/military/careers/army/2015/06/01/acu-uniform-camouflage-rollout/28166585/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=)
The interesting thing to see will be "if" the other Services can get behind the Congressional mandate and adopt this uniform as the sole field/combat uniform.
Quote from: shuman14 on June 06, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
The interesting thing to see will be "if" the other Services can get behind the Congressional mandate and adopt this uniform as the sole field/combat uniform.
Apparently the USAF has already said "no":
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm)
Quote from: LSThiker on June 06, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: shuman14 on June 06, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
The interesting thing to see will be "if" the other Services can get behind the Congressional mandate and adopt this uniform as the sole field/combat uniform.
Apparently the USAF has already said "no":
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm)
Yeah, they'll say "no" until Congress makes them say "yes". ::)
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Oh goodie....here we go again. Who will be first to put a bunch of CAP color all over one of these monstrosities? Guess ACU/ABU/MARPAT debacle wasn't bad enough....
Quote from: PHall on June 07, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: LSThiker on June 06, 2015, 08:23:23 PM
Quote from: shuman14 on June 06, 2015, 04:53:07 PM
The interesting thing to see will be "if" the other Services can get behind the Congressional mandate and adopt this uniform as the sole field/combat uniform.
Apparently the USAF has already said "no":
http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2014/09/03/air-force-says-no-to-new-camouflage.html?ESRC=todayinmil.sm)
Yeah, they'll say "no" until Congress makes them say "yes". ::)
Thank god I'll be getting ready to retire by then. So no Scorpion pattern here for this guy.
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 07, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
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Weird. . .
Several of my members are AD AF and wear the new pattern on a daily basis, and not deploying. . .
Again, Weird. . .
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 07, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
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Weird. . .
Several of my members are AD AF and wear the new pattern on a daily basis, and not deploying. . .
Again, Weird. . .
Which base....because I know that there are the rules.....and there are the rules.
Lots of AFSOC types sporting what ever they want.
Bottom line is....at this time....the USAF is not mandateing a change.
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 07, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
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Weird. . .
Several of my members are AD AF and wear the new pattern on a daily basis, and not deploying. . .
Again, Weird. . .
AFSOC and AFGSC have approval to deviate from the AFI to a degree. I can tell you tgat the JET taskings are decreasing.
Quote from: PHall on June 07, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Yeah, they'll say "no" until Congress makes them say "yes". ::)
Which makes me wonder, did the Army make this decision on their own? Or did the all branches get together to make the decision on the OCP? If the Army acted alone, I wonder how well that is going to go over if the Marines decide they do not want that pattern?
Quote from: LSThiker on June 07, 2015, 04:00:20 AM
Quote from: PHall on June 07, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Yeah, they'll say "no" until Congress makes them say "yes". ::)
Which makes me wonder, did the Army make this decision on their own? Or did the all branches get together to make the decision on the OCP? If the Army acted alone, I wonder how well that is going to go over if the Marines decide they do not want that pattern?
Congress needs to pass a budget on time every time and start saving funds across the board and actually doing their jobs before telling the DoD one uniform for all by this date.
Quote from: LSThiker on June 07, 2015, 04:00:20 AM
Quote from: PHall on June 07, 2015, 12:16:10 AM
Yeah, they'll say "no" until Congress makes them say "yes". ::)
Which makes me wonder, did the Army make this decision on their own? Or did the all branches get together to make the decision on the OCP? If the Army acted alone, I wonder how well that is going to go over if the Marines decide they do not want that pattern?
Yes it would be bad if the Army jumped the gun on this.
I'm cheap, I'm planning on wearing my UCP/ACUs until they wear out or September 2019 gets here, whichever comes first.
Quote from: lordmonar on June 07, 2015, 03:11:17 AM
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 07, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
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Weird. . .
Several of my members are AD AF and wear the new pattern on a daily basis, and not deploying. . .
Again, Weird. . .
Which base....because I know that there are the rules.....and there are the rules.
Lots of AFSOC types sporting what ever they want.
Bottom line is....at this time....the USAF is not mandateing a change.
Its a Missile Base. . . .and they guys are not AFSOC people.
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 05:06:51 PM
Its a Missile Base. . . .and they guys are not AFSOC people.
IIRC Security Forces in the missile fields are wearing OCP now.
Edit: http://www.afgsc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123438132 (http://www.afgsc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123438132)
Quote from: MIKE on June 07, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 05:06:51 PM
Its a Missile Base. . . .and they guys are not AFSOC people.
IIRC Security Forces in the missile fields are wearing OCP now.
I'd buy that....they were also the first ones to go to BDU's way back in the 80's before everyone was authorized them.
Someone call me when the Chaplain's assistances are sporting OCPs.
The way the Army got around the whole "all branches must have the same combat uniform" is that is only required if any of the branches develop a new came pattern and go to it. Scorpion was already developed and owned by the Army so technically it isn't new. It was a loophole in the NDA
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on June 07, 2015, 03:11:17 AM
Quote from: RogueLeader on June 07, 2015, 03:09:11 AM
Quote from: abdsp51 on June 07, 2015, 12:57:03 AM
Quote from: Ground_Pounder on June 07, 2015, 12:43:51 AM
Actually they didn't say no. They will wear it in theatre but retain the ABU tiger stripe pattern for wear in 'garrison.' Did anyone actually read the article? ??? >:D
Said for Army missions only. With the drawdown JET taskings are dropping.
\\
Weird. . .
Several of my members are AD AF and wear the new pattern on a daily basis, and not deploying. . .
Again, Weird. . .
Which base....because I know that there are the rules.....and there are the rules.
Lots of AFSOC types sporting what ever they want.
Bottom line is....at this time....the USAF is not mandateing a change.
Its a Missile Base. . . .and they guys are not AFSOC people.
AFGSC is allowed to deviate to a degree so you are probably seeing the cops in multi-cam which was approved for them a couple years ago.
That said the rest of the AF won't see or wear Multi-cam or Scorpion patterms for wear unless they deploy down range.