Creed for Ground Teams

[sarmed1]

In my personal experience it all depends on the incident: its size, nature and really how well and if the participating agencies have ever worked together (and if they have worked well in the past)

I have seen incidents where no one wants to work together and there are 4 mini incidents all going a the same time and I have seen it all fall into place like ICS claims it will.....

mk

PS I am not sure where this turned into a Ranger discussion either; but hey thanks for sticking to the predictable downfall of all CAPTALK threads.  If someone could just throw in some good beret, ABU, and special badge requirements and perhaps a nazi and firearm and red lights/siren reference we will have hit all the killers.....

[GTCommando]

Talk about drifting off topic! Oh well. With all these replies, I never knew I would be so popular. 

[caphornbuckle]

Talk about drifting off topic! Oh well. With all these replies, I never knew I would be so popular. 

Ya it has kinda gotten away from the Creed question.  Has anyone made up a decent one on here yet?

[SarDragon]

More importantly, IMHO, have we even established a real need for a creed in the first place?

[caphornbuckle]

More importantly, IMHO, have we even established a real need for a creed in the first place?

Maybe not a real need for one but it would be something to help answer the question asked.  Figured we might try to salvage the original post.

[N Harmon]

More importantly, IMHO, have we even established a real need for a creed in the first place?

It'd be nice to have something to put on GSAR coins that was consistent.

[cap235629]

have we established a need for a "GSAR Coin"?

[Johnny Yuma]

CAP GROUND TEAMS: If you die, We're splitting up your gear...

[ZigZag911]

What does ICS have to do with Rangers

Not much, since "Ranger" in CAP is a limited term used only within certain wings & training programs.

Our ES qualifications in this field are GBD, GTL, GTM 1/2/3, UDF...no Rangers, Lone or otherwise!

[Capt Ford]

CAP GROUND TEAMS: If you die, We're splitting up your gear...

Nice  :clap:

[Angus]

What does ICS have to do with Rangers

Not much, since "Ranger" in CAP is a limited term used only within certain wings & training programs.

Our ES qualifications in this field are GBD, GTL, GTM 1/2/3, UDF...no Rangers, Lone or otherwise!

I hate to disagree but I will any way.  We do have "Lone Rangers"  it's the entire ES Program in PAWG.   

[nesagsar]

CAP GROUND TEAMS: If you die, We're splitting up your gear...

Nice  :clap:

I agree sir.

[ZigZag911]

What does ICS have to do with Rangers

Not much, since "Ranger" in CAP is a limited term used only within certain wings & training programs.

Our ES qualifications in this field are GBD, GTL, GTM 1/2/3, UDF...no Rangers, Lone or otherwise!

I hate to disagree but I will any way.  We do have "Lone Rangers"  it's the entire ES Program in PAWG.   

Granted, but it is not a nation wide term used in official documents to designate ground team personnel.

It is, putting the best spin on it, a 'historical heritage' term within CAP...some programs and wings have used it, admittedly, for decades.

Don't care for it myself...I think there are forest rangers, Texas Rangers (LEO), Texas Rangers (MLB team who just trounced my beloved Yankees!) and US Army Rangers...none of which seem to have the remotest connection to what CAP does in ES GT area.

I suppose it entices cadets (and others who are still young at heart!) into participating.

I still don't like it, but to each their own!

[SitRep]

There is reasons why we called them Hard Core CAP Ninja Rangers, Please guys... do your mission, then RTB.

[Smithsonia]

There is already a CAP SAR Creed. I've seen it attributed to a several different people: Reed Landis, John Curry, and perhaps Gill Robb Wilson.

It comes from the day when we did more searches and first written down in 1944. It states;

"To find the lost and the dead - so - they are lost no more."

[davidsinn]

There is already a CAP SAR Creed. I've seen it attributed to a several different people: Reed Landis, John Curry, and perhaps Gill Robb Wilson.

It comes from the day when we did more searches and first written down in 1944. It states;

"To find the lost and the dead - so - they are lost no more."

I like it. Simple and eloquent. Should fit on a coin

[manfredvonrichthofen]

More of a motto than a creed, though, I like it. Keep it.

[N Harmon]

There is already a CAP SAR Creed. I've seen it attributed to a several different people: Reed Landis, John Curry, and perhaps Gill Robb Wilson.

It comes from the day when we did more searches and first written down in 1944. It states;

"To find the lost and the dead - so - they are lost no more."

I like it. Though I would take out "and the dead", because we don't really search for the dead.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

CAP has done quite a few cadaver searches. I have been on one... CAP will search for pretty much anything that is lost. The SAR motto is good, still not a creed, but inreally do like it and it actually makes sense.

[MSgt Van]

Gonna be hard to summarize all this on a tattoo...