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General Discussion => The Lobby => Topic started by: Holding Pattern on September 21, 2018, 05:58:08 PM

Title: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: Holding Pattern on September 21, 2018, 05:58:08 PM
Should I promote people immediately after they meet all the technical requirements and promotion board, wait for the day I can pin them, or choose some other strategy?
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: arajca on September 21, 2018, 06:08:34 PM
I recommend doing it in Eservices when they've met the requirements (including the PRB), but I've seen it done other ways as well.

Whichever way you use, BE CONSISTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: Eclipse on September 21, 2018, 06:28:07 PM
Unless it's intended to be a pleasant surprise, I always hit it the day all the requirements are completed.
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: TheSkyHornet on September 21, 2018, 07:19:58 PM
Push the button once the promotion has been 'approved' by the Commander. Don't hold people up to make it an administrative thing or to align with a particular date. That just drags out the timeline for the next promotion; especially cadets.

What happens if they can't pin for a month (because reasons)? You're going to hold them up a month?
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: MSG Mac on September 23, 2018, 02:49:53 AM
For Seniors as soon as they meet all requirements
For Cadets immediately after the PRB, Backdating to when they met the final requirement.
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: MSG Mac on September 23, 2018, 02:54:09 AM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 21, 2018, 07:19:58 PM
Push the button once the promotion has been 'approved' by the Commander. Don't hold people up to make it an administrative thing or to align with a particular date. That just drags out the timeline for the next promotion; especially cadets.

What happens if they can't pin for a month (because reasons)? You're going to hold them up a month?

The promotion is effective when you press approve and will be worn from that point on. However many units will hold off on Milestone pinning until friends and parents are available, and ask the cadet to wear the old insignia until the ceremony. By tying the promotion date to the pin on date the cadet loses TIG for his next promotion.
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: Eclipse on September 23, 2018, 03:42:42 AM
Also the Mitchell, for example, should be separate from the promotion to 2nd Lt
if waiting for the Group CC etc., would delay the promotion.

That goes for any of the achievements that have a prescribed presenter.
Title: Re: Commanders: When do you hit the "promote" button?
Post by: TheSkyHornet on September 23, 2018, 03:10:31 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on September 23, 2018, 02:54:09 AM
Quote from: TheSkyHornet on September 21, 2018, 07:19:58 PM
Push the button once the promotion has been 'approved' by the Commander. Don't hold people up to make it an administrative thing or to align with a particular date. That just drags out the timeline for the next promotion; especially cadets.

What happens if they can't pin for a month (because reasons)? You're going to hold them up a month?

The promotion is effective when you press approve and will be worn from that point on. However many units will hold off on Milestone pinning until friends and parents are available, and ask the cadet to wear the old insignia until the ceremony. By tying the promotion date to the pin on date the cadet loses TIG for his next promotion.

Hence why I'm very much opposed to promoting in eServices on the date of pinning/award presentation.

When I first joined CAP, the unit used to hold review boards every 4th week (Blues day) and pinnings every 4th week (Blues day). So if you had a review board, you had it 4 weeks from the date you could pin. Promotions were only conducted in Blues on that week---by promotions, I mean both the eServices entry and the pinning.

I was in awe.