New Senior Member-----HELP!!!

[PWK-GT]

I suspect I am not the only one lurking out there with a lot of motivation, but no real week-to-week support. Here's my scenario: I attended weekly meetings of the local Comp Sqdn (it seems that's all there is in the Land of Lincoln ) for 6 weeks before joining. It was enough to make me think I have some talents to bring to the unit.......and could develop some skills in areas that I was intrigued by. Now, after being a SM for 2 months, I find it difficult to even get started. My CO wants me to become Safety Officer--no problem , and understandable in light of the increased attention to the topic. I have yet to get any assistance in the Spec Track arena. It was like pulling teeth to get my Level I / CPPT completed (and now my CO is having a problem using e-services to record their completion). Few SM's even show up on a REGULAR basis--again, no guidance there. I am fine with Safety Officer, and also have been acting (on my own) as PAO and Recruiting officer--my thought being if we can get more SM's to join, maybe we can start getting serious about SM Prof Dev. I have been given no guidance as to track enrollment, curiculum, AFAIDL courses, or anything that'll give me somewhere to point my focus. I read 2-3 hours a night online, and have found more 'guidance' in some of these chat forums.I unfortunately have no other options for units due to distance and work hours. I was wondering if anyone out there can recommend some self-directed learning resources?? I enjoy a good challenge, but our SM's seem more interested in a coffee-klatch when the Cadets are doing their own things. I WANT TO LEARN!!!!!!!!!! Cripes, at this rate--FORGET about ES (which is what I really wanted to try on for size. Or should I put my time in till 2LT and see what the Senior personell situation is first?
Let me also say, the SM's are good people, but I fear all of the attention is going to the Cadets.....as we only have 5 REGULAR SM's attend.

In a nutshell, assuming the SM staffing situation remains unchanged, what do I need to on my own to start progressing in my chosen / assigned tracks? I have a ton of enthusiasm (even still) but no direction from the local brass. And unfortunately for them, I'm in this for the longhaul.

[arajca]

Once your Level I/CPPT appears on e-Services, you can sign up for the Air Force Institute for Advanced Distance Learning (AFIADL) courses. These are correspondence courses that you study at home and test a supervised test at your unit. The two courses you need to take are AFIADL 13 - CAP Senior Officer Course and AFIADL 02017 CAP Safety Officer Course. The AFIADL 13 is required to complete Level II.

Your commander can fax the CPPT/Level I completion to National if eServices won't accept it.

For more complete information, refer to the CAP 200 series pamphlet for Safety Officers. It details what is needed to progress in that specailty track. This is available online.

I recommend contacting your group or wing Safety Officer. The should be able to help guide you and familiarize you with the local and wing safety sop's.

[MurDog]

I am not exactly a new member, I've been in since 96. I just turned senior member, I had my Eaker so I am a 1lt. I guess what I am looking so is what bring new senior members to join? The cadet program can hold it self in my composite squadron. The cadet commander is doing and out standing job, but we really need more seniors to support them and to make a senior program.

What brings in new Senior members to the program in your areas? How should I aim recruiting to be senior specific?

Thanks!

[ladyreferee]

I've been a member for about 6 months although I have attended meetings for a year.  We are a very small composite squadron - so small that absolutely nothing was happening whether for the cadets or the seniors - I'm going to address the self learning.  Start reading everything - not just for safety - but everything!  Get to e-services and start reading all the publications. Cadet programs, senior specialty tracks, aerospace education, organization of unit, get the Aerospace-Journey of Flight book or read it on e-services,

[Major_Chuck]

GTOJim:

First, complete all the Level One requirements.  They are rather basic and a hoop you have to jump through first.

Second:  (This you don't have to wait to do).  Make contact with your group and wing safety officers.  Introduce yourself and ask them their thoughts, ideas, plans.  Tell them what you are looking to do.

Enroll in AFIADL Course 1900 (I think that is the number).  Your Wing ETA (Professional Development) staff can do that for you.  Check what their procedures are.

If you are interested in some additional information just email me.  I'll be glad to point or help you out. 

-Chuck

[Pylon]

I suspect I am not the only one lurking out there with a lot of motivation, but no real week-to-week support. Here's my scenario: I attended weekly meetings of the local Comp Sqdn (it seems that's all there is in the Land of Lincoln ) for 6 weeks before joining. It was enough to make me think I have some talents to bring to the unit.......and could develop some skills in areas that I was intrigued by. Now, after being a SM for 2 months, I find it difficult to even get started. My CO wants me to become Safety Officer--no problem , and understandable in light of the increased attention to the topic. I have yet to get any assistance in the Spec Track arena. It was like pulling teeth to get my Level I / CPPT completed (and now my CO is having a problem using e-services to record their completion). Few SM's even show up on a REGULAR basis--again, no guidance there. I am fine with Safety Officer, and also have been acting (on my own) as PAO and Recruiting officer--my thought being if we can get more SM's to join, maybe we can start getting serious about SM Prof Dev. I have been given no guidance as to track enrollment, curiculum, AFAIDL courses, or anything that'll give me somewhere to point my focus. I read 2-3 hours a night online, and have found more 'guidance' in some of these chat forums.I unfortunately have no other options for units due to distance and work hours. I was wondering if anyone out there can recommend some self-directed learning resources?? I enjoy a good challenge, but our SM's seem more interested in a coffee-klatch when the Cadets are doing their own things. I WANT TO LEARN!!!!!!!!!! Cripes, at this rate--FORGET about ES (which is what I really wanted to try on for size. Or should I put my time in till 2LT and see what the Senior personell situation is first?
Let me also say, the SM's are good people, but I fear all of the attention is going to the Cadets.....as we only have 5 REGULAR SM's attend.

In a nutshell, assuming the SM staffing situation remains unchanged, what do I need to on my own to start progressing in my chosen / assigned tracks? I have a ton of enthusiasm (even still) but no direction from the local brass. And unfortunately for them, I'm in this for the longhaul.

Jim,

Welcome to CAPTalk.  I think you'll find yourself a good deal of experienced and knowledgable CAP members here who are willing to give you as much advice as possible.

Let me say that you situation is unfortunately not unique, though very deplorable.  Senior Member professional development is lacking in many areas around the U.S.   It takes a back-seat (along with things like AE) to Cadet Programs and Operations.

It sounds like, from your post that you have your Level I and CPPT completed.  As was suggested above, either you or your unit commander can send in by Fax to National HQ the completed forms that show you passed CPPT and completed your Level I training.  By faxing it in, they should record Level I and CPPT on your record within 24 hours.

After you've gotten that out of the way, and have put in your six months of membership total, you'll be eligible for promotion to 2d Lt.  (Fill out the Form 2, have your unit commander sign it, and fax that in to NHQ also.  The promotion will usually be posted within 1 day).   Then, all you need to do is serve 18 months as a 2d Lt, and earn your specialty rating in anything (Safety, perhaps?), to earn 1st Lt.

Does your Group HQ (the next echelon up) have a Professional Development officer?   If not, your Wing HQ certainly must.  You could contact your Wing PDO and ask your questions about upcoming seminars, like SLS, or ask about paperwork submitted, etc.  Your Wing PDO can certainly give you good guidance.

I applaud your efforts to recruit more Senior Members.  That always helps out.  The more hands there are to do things, the less burden it is on everyone.  I don't know if you'll be able to specifically recruit someone to be your unit PDO, however, as it's something that is often best suited to someone very familiar with CAP and the Senior programs.  That's not to say a new member can't handle it, however it is a much more daunting task especially without any local PDOs already in place to help train them.

As far as your Specialty Tracks go, you're not required to do only one track at once.  Feel free to pursue Safety and something else you are interested in, such as PDO, or Cadet Programs, or PAO, or Recruiting and Retention, etc.

CAP is largely self-study if you plan to advance yourself rapidly.  It is the same way with the Cadet Program - it is based upon self-motivation and study to promote and advance.    You need to find out what you need for your next promotion, or what requirements there are for your next specialty track rating, or what you need to do to earn that ES rating, or to earn the Yeager award, etc.  Then, you work on checking off those requirements personally, and when you've completed them you bring your completed checklist with proof to your unit commander who signs it off and sends it in.   This is how I've done it and I've found it to be very effective.

However, self-study doesn't mean you're alone!    We're here to help you.  If you have questions on what you need to do for something, or what something means, or how to run a certain thing, just ask here!  There are always people here willing to answer your question and give you advice and guidance!

So with that, good luck!  Keep up informed on your progress, and let us know what you need to know to keep advancing yourself and improving your unit!  Best wishes! 

[SarDragon]

[redacted] It was like pulling teeth to get my Level I / CPPT completed (and now my CO is having a problem using e-services to record their completion).  [further redacted]

Level I can only be documented by National. It's not an eServices function. They need the Form 11 with original signatures. They are really picky about that due to the liability considerations of the CPPT part.

BTW, Level I = Orientation Course + CPPT.

[BlueLakes1]

Level I can only be documented by National. It's not an eServices function. They need the Form 11 with original signatures. They are really picky about that due to the liability considerations of the CPPT part.

BTW, Level I = Orientation Course + CPPT.

I teach the Level One/CPPT classes for my squadron and I submit the paperwork via email. If you go to Forms - Word on the member services, there is a link to the proper email address to send them to, along with the form in .doc format to fill out and email as an attachment. This is an acceptable method under the paper reduction initiative. I've sent in at least 5 or 6, and had no problems whatsoever and they usually post the same day.

[Pace]

Level I can only be documented by National. It's not an eServices function. They need the Form 11 with original signatures. They are really picky about that due to the liability considerations of the CPPT part.

BTW, Level I = Orientation Course + CPPT.

I teach the Level One/CPPT classes for my squadron and I submit the paperwork via email. If you go to Forms - Word on the member services, there is a link to the proper email address to send them to, along with the form in .doc format to fill out and email as an attachment. This is an acceptable method under the paper reduction initiative. I've sent in at least 5 or 6, and had no problems whatsoever and they usually post the same day.

This is probably a stupid question, but can anyone send in these forms or does it have to be the unit commander that sends the files as an attachment.  I'm asking because I'm getting ready to send in a few forms, and I'd like to do it electronically to save time.

Thanks,
Daniel

[BlueLakes1]

Which forms Daniel? I've sent in Form 11s for the Level 1/CPPT, Form 2s for 2nd and 1st Lt. promotions, and Form 24s for Professional Development awards. I'm not the Commander, I'm Operations and Personnel. If you send in a CAPF2 for promotion, the approving authority's name, grade and position need to be in the body of the email. If you'd like, I'll email you the basic letter you use for reference.

I do keep a signed original of the form in the member's personnel file, and I document that in the comments section on the form before I send it. I've not had any trouble at all with emailing forms to NHQ, but those are all I've sent.

[Pace]

Which forms Daniel? I've sent in Form 11s for the Level 1/CPPT, Form 2s for 2nd and 1st Lt. promotions, and Form 24s for Professional Development awards. I'm not the Commander, I'm Operations and Personnel. If you send in a CAPF2 for promotion, the approving authority's name, grade and position need to be in the body of the email. If you'd like, I'll email you the basic letter you use for reference.

I do keep a signed original of the form in the member's personnel file, and I document that in the comments section on the form before I send it. I've not had any trouble at all with emailing forms to NHQ, but those are all I've sent.

You hit the nail on the head.  Those are the three forms I was thinking about.  If you would send that letter to me, I would certainly appreciate it.  DCPacemaker@aol.com  Thank you very much for your advice.  This will speed up the process for the senior members in my squadron who have been due for a promotion for a very long time.

The main thing that's holding me up, though, is the Professional Development Report.  I need to update that report to show completion of specialty tracks, but I haven't seen one from NHQ since the beginning of the year.  Off hand, do you know what months and what time of those months the PDR is sent to squadrons?

Thanks,
Daniel

[SarDragon]

Re: emailing a Level I Form 11 - I sent one in that way right after that directive came out, and got it sent back because there were no signatures, so I just snail mail them now. Apparently they aren't as picky now. I'll try it after I teach my next Level I.

Re: the PDR - do a CAPWATCH download and generate your own. Mark it up in red, get the commander to sign it, and send it to the address on the top.

Note again - Level I/CPPT is redundant. Level I = Orientation Course + CPPT. Sez so right in the 50-17.

[Pace]

Re: emailing a Level I Form 11 - I sent one in that way right after that directive came out, and got it sent back because there were no signatures, so I just snail mail them now. Apparently they aren't as picky now. I'll try it after I teach my next Level I.

Re: the PDR - do a CAPWATCH download and generate your own. Mark it up in red, get the commander to sign it, and send it to the address on the top.

Note again - Level I/CPPT is redundant. Level I = Orientation Course + CPPT. Sez so right in the 50-17.

Thanks for the insight.  Unfortunately, cadet e-services accounts do not have CAPWATCH privileges.  I guess I'll have to wait for my SM app and background check to clear before I can act on that.

[arajca]

Your unit's or commander WSA can grant you the privileges. Even seniors need that approval.

[abysmal]

In a nutshell, assuming the SM staffing situation remains unchanged, what do I need to on my own to start progressing in my chosen / assigned tracks? I have a ton of enthusiasm (even still) but no direction from the local brass. And unfortunately for them, I'm in this for the longhaul.

BOY does that situation sound All Too FAMILIAR!!

First, welcome to the best little gathering of CAPers I have yet to find.
You are WAY ahead of the power curve just because you landed in the right spot where there are PLENTY of people that are more than a little willing to share of both their knowlege and resources!!

As you can see from the responces already, there are plenty of options for you to follow, so long as your a self starter, and it appears you are.

[SarDragon]

Your unit's or commander WSA can grant you the privileges. Even seniors need that approval.

Senior members get basic CAPWATCH read only privileges automatically, including the ability to look at any member's data, and download the database for the unit, without any action from the unit commander. I had forgotten that cadets do not get that same privilege on the same basis.

[PWK-GT]

Thanks to all for the great replies! After this evening's unit meeting I completed the Level 1 forms and they will be faxed in to NHQ tomorrow. The unfortunate by-product of few SM's around here, is that my CO (we have no PDO) is not really up to speed on what to do.......and how.......very quickly. I get a lot of " I'm gonna have to check on that, and get back to you by next week's meeting" kind of answers. But, I did find some testing in e-services....and have completed the General ES part 1 & 2 since my original posting yesterday! It is nice to have a little satisfaction in a timely manner...for once!
How can I get a roster of who my Group or Wing PDO's are? I would love to use this as a crutch........It seems that I have to skip an echelon of command if I don't want to whither on the vine.

On a 'find the silver lining' note, I guess I stand to be a very big fish in a small pond after I find out how to do everything myself!
As to the Level1 / CPPT wording snafu.........chalk that up to late night postings-- I do know the Level 1 included CPPT + Orientation. Where can I find criteria for the Yeager Award? It seems a lot of people have recommended it.
Hit me with advice directly at griggs5113@juno.com
Thanks to all!
- Jim

[arajca]

For the Yeager, you have to complete the Aerospace Education Program for Senior Members. It consists of a 100 question, open book test that may be taken at the unit or online. The book is Aerospace The Journey which cadet officers use and can be downloaded from eServices.

[Bluelakes 13]

Hi Jim,

I'd be happy to help you.  I'll send you an email also.

The IL Wing staff roster is at http://www.ilcap.org/wingstaff.htm

[BlueLakes1]

Daniel,

I emailed you the info you asked for, but it shows deleted. If you need it again, let me know.

[Pace]

Ah, sorry about that.  I checked my recently deleted mail and found it.  I get so many e-mails a day, sometimes I mistake e-mail I want to read for spam and delete it.  Thanks for catching that.

Daniel

[Westernslope]

I may be still a newbie on this forum but I am not new to CAP.  I agree that some squadrons focus on Cadet development and know very little about Sr Mbr training.

We are an organization of volunteers so the level of expertise varies - even at the squadron commander level. So, at times, we have to learn it on our own. Also, some squadron commanders are uncomfortable with new members asking questions outside their expertise.

One successful tactic that I have recommended to new members in similar circumstances is take do the research to determine what process methods, forms, etc. are needed then ask the squadron commander or professional development officer to "verify" that the information is still current.  Of course it will be current but it is better than asking "Don't you know how to do your job?"

Also you could complete the paperwork, when possible, and just present it for proper signatures.  I make copies of all signed paperwork and send it to National myself . Sidebar: I keep copies of everything and have a set of my personnel records at my home.

In CAP, you can learn most everything needed, if you know where to find it or who do ask.  This is not always easy but your finding this forum is a great start.

Sounds like you have done a lot of research already but suggestions of places to start include:

• Obtain (download) a copy of CAPR 50-17 Sr Mbr Prof Dev Program.
  Obtain (download) a copy of P7 Sr Mbr Fast Start handbook.
  Obtain (download)  Specialty Track Study guides for specialty tracks that interest you.
  Use the CAP knowledge base to help find information
  Attend a Squadron Leadership School (SLS) in your wing or a nearby wing. The Wing Prof Dev Officer should have a schedule.
  Attend Wing, Region and even National Conferences. The networking alone can be worth the expense.

Based on your enthusiasm and commitment, sounds like you will be a great asset to your squadron. Just give them a little time to get to know you and realize that your commitment is for real.

[PWK-GT]

'Cadetofthe60s' pretty much nailed down what I was after. I DO realize that most of the info I need is out there, but it is sometimes frustrating trying to find it! I spend at least 2-3 hours a night poking around online after the wife and kids are fast asleep.Sleep is overrated anyhow--anyone w/kids under 2 yrs knows THAT one........HAHA .....but I would like to make my searches a lot more time efficient.
A million thanks to all on this thread so far--- you have given me a real direction to go with my questions! I even heard from the Group PAO who is now lurking out here.......I put my original post under a different username, because I felt bad ranting about my frustrations..........but, apparently, mine are not unique to some SM's in here.


"There are no stupid questions....just stupid people"--A1c Eric Cartman

[abysmal]

I DO realize that most of the info I need is out there, but it is sometimes frustrating trying to find it! I spend at least 2-3 hours a night poking around online after the wife and kids are fast asleep.Sleep is overrated anyhow--anyone w/kids under 2 yrs knows THAT one........HAHA .....but I would like to make my searches a lot more time efficient.

That is EXACTLY where I was 6 months ago when I joined back up with CAP and started searching the www for all the questions that I had.

The resources we have available to us now are SO MUCH BETTER than when I was a cadet back in the 70's. THere is just no comparison to the access to information that is at our fingertips.

[PWK-GT]

Abysmal and I sound like we should be new best-buddies!!!!! HEE HEE!!!
I mean, best-buddies SIR!
Congrats on those new butter-bars!

[abysmal]

thanks.
And I see no reason at all why we shouldn't be friends.
This whole forum is filled with some VERY good hearted people.
In general, its a good reflection of what CAP is all about.

[PWK-GT]

Agreed..........I have to say that this one is by FAR the best one I have found. I know our Wing has it's problems lately, but it's nice to network w/ those guys outside the Wing This forum is a real asset when you have no PDO available in-house.
As an aside to Abysmal, when were you 82nd? My best bud was in the Sandbox in '91...........a chemical jumper-type. He got out after that hitch, and I'm trying to get him into CAP.

[abysmal]

I joined the 82nd in 1987 as part of the 1/17th Air Cav in the 82nd Aviation Btln.
Spent all my time at Bragg, mostly on Smoke Bomb Hill.
Got out in the summer of 1990 and then called back in for desert storm in 1991.
Went through a full retraining and certification and was about to be asigned when they released our entire group and declared the war over.

[abysmal]

Agreed..........I have to say that this one is by FAR the best one I have found.

A few good places to drop in on from time to time are...

http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x/a/frm/f/1041972456
http://www.cadetstuff.org/
http://www.auxiliarypower.org/
http://capblog.typepad.com/
http://www.squadroncommand.com/

at least these are the places that I frequent when the family is asleep and I am searching out obscure CAP things...

[PWK-GT]

I had a problem w/ the Military.com one last night.....I tried to register, but every time I hit 'submit' I got a 404Error notice.
Maybe a temporary glitch??

[abysmal]

honestly don't know.
I have never posted to that forum, just read.

[pixelwonk]

Agreed..........I have to say that this one is by FAR the best one I have found.

A few good places to drop in on from time to time are...

http://forums.military.com/eve/ubb.x/a/frm/f/1041972456
http://www.cadetstuff.org/
http://www.auxiliarypower.org/
http://capblog.typepad.com/
http://www.squadroncommand.com/

at least these are the places that I frequent when the family is asleep and I am searching out obscure CAP things...

Dont forget, www.civilairman.com 

[abysmal]

FORGIVE ME OH GREAT ONE.
I didn't think of that one.

Won't make that mistake twice....

[PWK-GT]

TSK-TSK............barely an LT, and already overworked to the point of brain-fry.

[Pylon]

TSK-TSK............barely an LT, and already overworked to the point of brain-fry.

Isn't that the story for us all?   

[abysmal]

Hey, what about the UNDERPAID part???

[PWK-GT]

I thought the 'underpaid' part was a given............Doesn't CAP stand for "Can't Actually Pay-you"  

[Westernslope]

I thought the 'underpaid' part was a given............Doesn't CAP stand for "Can't Actually Pay-you"  

Could be....

I always thought it was Come And Pay

[SarDragon]

Cash And Plastic!

[Pylon]

I thought the 'underpaid' part was a given............Doesn't CAP stand for "Can't Actually Pay-you"  

Could be....

I always thought it was Come And Pay

Cash And Plastic!                                                 

Actually, we had a thread on this very topic! 

Alternative meanings for CAP

[abysmal]

Interesting how the same subject keeps coming up......

[Camas]

Some thoughts on some questions submitted in this forum. 

I'm not an AE expert but I believe the Yeager test is now available on line which makes it far easier to take than it used to.  If you pass the test the system should generate a certificate in which case a copy should be submitted to your wing DAE.  He or she then submits a CAPF 127 to National and you can then check e-services to ensure you've been given credit for the award.  Resources for the Yeager Award can be found in CAPP 215, CAPR 280-2 and CAPP 15.

The issue of Level 1/CPPT has been well answered.  I would only add that the CAPF 11 should be either emailed or forwarded via snailmail to HQ CAP/ETP upon completion for proper credit.  Again, the e-services can be checked for proper documentation.  Important  - make very sure you have a copy of that CAPF 11 for your own personal files.  Be sure to have both the students and instructor's signature on it.

In response to the question on PDR's or professional development reports; those are forwarded to each unit every other month in January, March, May and so on.  Your squadron should have those on hand.  Consult CAPR 50-17 on how to work with those reports; it's very throughly explained. 

Hope this helps.

[BlueLakes1]

Yes, the Yeager test is online, although you have to do a little bit of digging to get to it. To get there, go into member services (http://level2.cap.gov), then on the left side toolbar click Programs, then Aerospace Education, then Aerospace Education Senior Member Program. From there, it's self explanatory. Don't try to access it thru the e-services "online exams" link, you won't find it there. But, you will find "Aerospace, the Journey of Flight" there. That's the AE book that the Yeager test is taken from, and it's online. No need to buy it from CAPMart now.

Or...try this link. Finally got it to work.

http://level2.cap.gov/visitors/programs/aerospace_education/aerospace_education_senior_member_program/

[Lt Oliv]

Some thoughts on some questions submitted in this forum. 

I'm not an AE expert but I believe the Yeager test is now available on line which makes it far easier to take than it used to.  If you pass the test the system should generate a certificate in which case a copy should be submitted to your wing DAE.  He or she then submits a CAPF 127 to National and you can then check e-services to ensure you've been given credit for the award.  Resources for the Yeager Award can be found in CAPP 215, CAPR 280-2 and CAPP 15.

The issue of Level 1/CPPT has been well answered.  I would only add that the CAPF 11 should be either emailed or forwarded via snailmail to HQ CAP/ETP upon completion for proper credit.  Again, the e-services can be checked for proper documentation.  Important  - make very sure you have a copy of that CAPF 11 for your own personal files.  Be sure to have both the students and instructor's signature on it.

In response to the question on PDR's or professional development reports; those are forwarded to each unit every other month in January, March, May and so on.  Your squadron should have those on hand.  Consult CAPR 50-17 on how to work with those reports; it's very throughly explained. 

Hope this helps.

Once you pass the Yeager test online, eServices automatically updates to reflect your award.  You only have to go through the Wing DAE if you take the paper test, in which case results are submitted to NHQ.  The online test goes straight there and your record is updated automatically and immediately.

[EMT-83]

Once you pass the Yeager test online, eServices automatically updates to reflect your award.  You only have to go through the Wing DAE if you take the paper test, in which case results are submitted to NHQ.  The online test goes straight there and your record is updated automatically and immediately.

Hopefully, in the 4 years that have passed, this has happened.

[Eclipse]

In response to the question on PDR's or professional development reports; those are forwarded to each unit every other month in January, March, May and so on.  Your squadron should have those on hand.  Consult CAPR 50-17 on how to work with those reports; it's very thoroughly explained. 

NHQ hasn't sent reports out in any form for years.

Similar reports are available via eServices.

The Yeager certificate is available to be printed (if desired), immediately after you pass.  Some Wings will still print a large-format one, some don't anymore.

[PWK-GT]

As the OP, I have to look back.....4 years later........and laugh at this. My solution came by......wait for it........xferring to a more hi-speed unit.

Sometimes the solution is right there in front of you 

Thanks to those original replies....it sure helped!

[SarDragon]

And folks, I think we have a new bump record! Four years, fifteen days.

[Lt Oliv]

I'm quite proud of this bump, actually.

Tell you guys the truth, I felt compelled to bump it because someone in my squadron didn't read the dates when he read this thread, and walked away thinking he had to catch our PDO to take the Yeager Test. 

Heck, I had to search the forum just to find what in the heck he was talking about!  Since I didn't see it anywhere else, I figured I'd bring some closure to this otherwise dead issue. 

And in the process, claim my "bump" award. 

[SarDragon]

Good for you, and thanks for the added extra effort.

[Lt Oliv]

Whoa....effort? I didn't mean to exert effort. 

Honest, I didn't! Please don't make me Group Commander!