I was thinking about asking my squatron Commander I mean can we where Berets?

[rick98]

Can we were berets instead of a squadron hat because our squadron hats look weird with Bright red we kinda look like the Elmo squadron . I was thinking red Berets with our squadron patch on the front...

Please answer

[754837]

Clearly a joke or bait!

[Struts]

Do you normally wear the BDU cap or some sort of red baseball cap?

[Struts]

Clearly a joke or bait!

Could be a legitimate question from somebody who is very new to CAP. Benefit of the doubt. But red berets? ftp://

[titanII]

No, the Squadron Commander could not authorize a red beret for wear.
From CAPM 39-1, the Uniform Manual:

3. BDU Cap:  Either the USAF or Army style BDU cap or camouflage BDU baseball cap may be worn
with the BDU uniform.  Senior members, cadet NCOs, and airmen do not wear any type of insignia
on the cap.  Cadet officers wear the embroidered grade insignia centered 1/2 inch above the visor on
the BDU cap.  Cap will not be worn crushed or rolled. Marine style BDU cap is not authorized.
4. CAP Baseball Cap:  May be worn with the utility uniforms if authorized by the unit commander. 
The color, material, unit designation, or silk screen organizational emblem or badge will be
prescribed by the unit commander.  Emblem or badge, if authorized, will be centered 1/2 inch above
visor.

page 41

[tsrup]

Wing commander may authorize a beret for special purpose wear, however, it must be blue.


The wing commander is also not likely to authorize it for just your squadron to wear just because you don't like your hat. 

[754837]

If this is a legit question then I was wrong in my first post.

[Abby.L]

BDU/BBDU patrol/baseball cap, or squadron cap. If you go to NBB, wonderful. Wear it all you want after that. Why would you wear a red cap anyway if you look like "The elmo squadron"?

[FlyTiger77]

Can we wear berets instead of a squadron hat...red Berets with our squadron patch on the front...

Negative, Ghostrider.

And, when they are worn, berets typically have a flash. Unless it is really tiny, a squadron patch wouldn't fit.

[Nathan]

Can we wear berets instead of a squadron hat...red Berets with our squadron patch on the front...

And, when they are worn, berets typically have a flash. Unless it is really tiny, a squadron patch wouldn't fit.

I'm not sure about that. The flash that goes on a green beret seems to be roughly the same size of the average squadron patch.

[FlyTiger77]

Can we wear berets instead of a squadron hat...red Berets with our squadron patch on the front...

And, when they are worn, berets typically have a flash. Unless it is really tiny, a squadron patch wouldn't fit.

I'm not sure about that. The flash that goes on a green beret seems to be roughly the same size of the average squadron patch.

I think most flashes are somewhat shorter than most squadron patches and are certainly not as wide. I don't have one of my berets here at the office to measure. Regardless, a red beret won't fly.

[Майор Хаткевич]

But it'd be just like Red Dawn!

[Eclipse]

I think most flashes are somewhat shorter than most squadron patches and are certainly not as wide. I don't have one of my berets here at the office to measure.

I'd say by about 1/2 - a unit insignia should be about 3.5 to 4 inches tall.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

All berets in the Army use the same size flashes, just different colors for different units. And I can tell from my squadron patch and my black beret from the Army, they are a massive difference in size. I just wish I still had my black beret from the Army to take a picture for you.

The way berets are done in INWG for GTMs is cadet enlisted wear the cadet enlisted hat device, cadet officers wear their full size rank, and senior members wear the SM hat device. It looks good. But I really don't think it would even look good on any other color of beret.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Back WIWABS in the '70s, I wore a red beret.  It was awful, because it was so garish, and the model the BSA used didn't even have a "stiffener" in it, that I remember.

As many CT colleagues know, I do like berets and cannot understand why they're so polarising in the US services - either they're viewed as "elite only" or "they're terrible."

I do agree that blue is the only reasonably good-looking colour for us, though no doubt there are advocates for grey.

[Eclipse]

The way berets are done in INWG for GTMs is cadet enlisted wear the cadet enlisted hat device, cadet officers wear their full size rank, and senior members wear the SM hat device. It looks good. But I really don't think it would even look good on any other color of beret.

I've gone around with Sinn on this as well, but for the life of me I don't see the point.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

The way berets are done in INWG for GTMs is cadet enlisted wear the cadet enlisted hat device, cadet officers wear their full size rank, and senior members wear the SM hat device. It looks good. But I really don't think it would even look good on any other color of beret.

I've gone around with Sinn on this as well, but for the life of me I don't see the point.

With which part?

[Eclipse]

Berets in INWG.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

Berets in INWG.

So far as I understand it, it is authorizable by wing kings, and it has been around as long as I can remember.

[Eclipse]

Berets in INWG.

So far as I understand it, it is authorizable by wing kings, and it has been around as long as I can remember.

I understand the how, just not the why.