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Title: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: xray328 on November 14, 2016, 02:19:42 AM
Hey guys, are there any published stats on the percentage of female cadets achieving milestone awards? Are female cadets still at 20% of overall membership? I was going to just multiply that by the known overall numbers (15% for the Mitchell etc), but I thought I'd double check, thanks.


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Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: TheSkyHornet on November 14, 2016, 07:25:22 PM
I don't have any "stats" for you, Shaun, but as far as our unit:

Joined 20 Jul 2014 | Active and attends every meeting (Rank: C/1st Lt)
Joined 28 Jul 2014 | Active and attends every meeting (Rank: C/CMSgt)
Joined 20 Nov 2015 | Resigned and expired end of Nov 2016 (Rank: C/Amn)
Joined 07 Feb 2016 | Still on the roster; last attended April 2016 (Rank: C/Amn)
Joined 07 Oct 2016 | Active and attends every meeting (Rank: C/Amn)

During my time in the unit since February 2015, we have had 1 girl transfer to another state (she's a C/SMSgt now) and another fall off the roster (C/Amn at the time). There was a girl who supposedly went AWOL just before I joined that was a C/SrA.

You'd have to really look at the stats of males who don't get above C/SSgt vs males who don't get above C/CMSgt, and compare those numbers to females to get a more accurate trend.

Most CAP cadets who fall off the roster, I find, do so before hitting C/SSgt. Most cadets who stay in CAP until they reach 18 don't seem to get past C/CMSgt. I think the testing thwarts quite a bit of them as well as the tougher PT standards.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Spaceman3750 on November 14, 2016, 07:56:14 PM
Here are some local stats as well. These are "on the books" numbers, but overall we have a fairly high attendance rate month-to-month.

Female cadet ratio: 10/34 or 29.4%
Females w/ Wright vs all with Wright: 3/15 or 20%
Females w/ Mitchell vs all with Mitchell: 0/3, with one very close.

We recently graduated something resembling a Great Start class. 2/5 were females.

I'm not a statistician, but it would seem that in our unit the number of females w/ milestones roughly tracks with the overall percentage of females in the unit.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: xray328 on November 14, 2016, 09:04:36 PM
Thanks guys, so I'll go with roughly 3% of female cadets earning the Mitchell.


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Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
My guess is, sadly, 3% is probably high, but it's going to vary so widely by wing it'd be hard to pin a number.

http://capnhq.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/702/~/percentage-of-cadets-earning-spaatz,-eaker,-earhart-and-mitchell

"Mitchell: 15%
Earhart: 5%
Eaker: 2%
Spaatz:  Estimates are about five out of one thousand cadets (one half of one percent) who join CAP will achieve the Spaatz during their service as cadets."


>Note: 5/1000 is .2 which is less then 1/4 of 1 percent, but granted, math is hard <

Duh
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: jeders on November 14, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
>Note: 5/1000 is .2 which is less then 1/4 of 1 percent, ...<

Actually, 5/1000 is .005, which is 1/2 of 1 percent.

Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PMbut granted, math is hard
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
>Note: 5/1000 is .2 which is less then 1/4 of 1 percent, ...<

Actually, 5/1000 is .005, which is 1/2 of 1 percent.

Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PMbut granted, math is hard

Nertz - what the heck did I calc?
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: xray328 on November 14, 2016, 11:02:28 PM
Thanks again.  We have 43 cadets, 9 are female and none have their Mitchell. Most of the female cadets are new though. As PAO I'm going to do a news release soon for my daughter that's about to receive hers. Her and her brother are promoting to C/2d Lt together next month, should be a nice story.



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Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: jeders on November 14, 2016, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
>Note: 5/1000 is .2 which is less then 1/4 of 1 percent, ...<

Actually, 5/1000 is .005, which is 1/2 of 1 percent.

Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PMbut granted, math is hard

Nertz - what the heck did I calc?

The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field?
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: RogueLeader on November 15, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 11:08:31 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:34:39 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 10:07:56 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PM
>Note: 5/1000 is .2 which is less then 1/4 of 1 percent, ...<

Actually, 5/1000 is .005, which is 1/2 of 1 percent.

Quote from: Eclipse on November 14, 2016, 10:04:20 PMbut granted, math is hard

Nertz - what the heck did I calc?

The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field?

3720 to 1
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: RogueLeader on November 15, 2016, 08:49:46 PM
In all seriousness, in my wing, we have 102 cadets, with 20 females.

I'll spend more time later figuring out more numbers, just of the top of my head, there is (highest milestone only)(Females only) 1 Earhart, 1 Mitchell, 4 Wright Brothers.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Offutteer on November 16, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
Years ago, Nat HQ CP posted some stats, which included information about the female cadets in CAP.  Unfortunately, they have since removed that post, but I do remember that the stats for the Milestone awards were parallel with the ratio of female to male cadets all the way through the program.  I wish they would check those numbers again, but I do remember reading that.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Eclipse on November 16, 2016, 03:18:02 PM
NHQ is probably the only level this could be answered with any certainty.

Part of the issue is the fairly high number of cadets in general who view Mitchell as "mini-completion" of the
CP due to their personal goal for a military enlistment, so they may not be on the books at all after the completion.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: LSThiker on November 16, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on November 15, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 11:08:31 PM
The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field?

3720 to 1

Fortunately, C3-PO was also horrible at math as the actual odds are more like 1 in 1 billion of hitting an asteroid in an asteroid belt. 

Also, he is saying that for every 3721 times Han navigates the asteroid field, he will only not navigate it 1 time.

:angel: 
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: RogueLeader on November 16, 2016, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: LSThiker on November 16, 2016, 04:45:44 PM
Quote from: RogueLeader on November 15, 2016, 08:08:55 PM
Quote from: jeders on November 14, 2016, 11:08:31 PM
The odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field?

3720 to 1

Fortunately, C3-PO was also horrible at math as the actual odds are more like 1 in 1 billion of hitting an asteroid in an asteroid belt. 

Also, he is saying that for every 3721 times Han navigates the asteroid field, he will only not navigate it 1 time.

:angel:
N00b  >:D

C-3PO wasn't bad at math,  GL was just bad at what an asteroid belt looks like in this universe.

Considering how many TIEs were destroyed (not to mention Star Destroyers damaged)  I'd assert that C-3PO's assessment of odds (for the density of the Hoth Asteroid belt) was fairly accurate.  Han was just that good.
Title: Re: Stats on female cadets achieving milestones?
Post by: Offutteer on November 22, 2016, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Offutteer on November 16, 2016, 03:00:33 PM
Years ago, Nat HQ CP posted some stats, which included information about the female cadets in CAP.  Unfortunately, they have since removed that post, but I do remember that the stats for the Milestone awards were parallel with the ratio of female to male cadets all the way through the program.  I wish they would check those numbers again, but I do remember reading that.

You're not going to believe this, but I found the data that they posted back in 2009.  I don't know why they posted it and then removed it later, but here are the numbers from Oct 2009:

Total Cadet Membership      
Type                               Total   Female   %
Cadet Membership         22,909      4,417    19%
Mitchell Award               2,615         499     19%
Earhart Award                  886         201     23%
Eaker Award                    261           52     20%
Spaatz Award                    73           17      23%