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Started by Flying Pig, January 23, 2009, 03:57:15 PM

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Rotorhead

My observation of Clinton was that, rather than "fake" a good salute, he often nodded when saluted.

Which, as CinC was his preogative.
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Quote from: Stonewall on January 23, 2009, 06:11:48 PM
Quote from: dwb on January 23, 2009, 06:03:42 PMI didn't see Biden's salute, but I thought Obama's was pretty sharp.



Biden's isn't bad on the up-swing, it's the "follow through" that's an issue (sometimes).  He likes to do a little wave/point instead of bringing it down.  Kind of funny actually, not a real issue...maybe to some, but not me.

Better than this...


^^ I wonder how many martin's WJC had just polished off before this picture was taken
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flyguy06

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Quote from: Flying Pig on January 23, 2009, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: flyguy06 on January 23, 2009, 09:32:54 PM
Quote from: Flying Pig on January 23, 2009, 06:31:30 PM
These are pretty good.  However, since Bush was a military officer it should have ben a no brainer.

he waas inthe Air Guard. trust me, being an Army Guard officer I cantell you that we dont get to practice saluting that often. You'd be surprised at how little Guardsmen salute one another. We try to focus more on doing our jobs than pomp and cercumstances.
Uhhhh..Yes he was in the Air Guard.  Interesting, especially coming from an Infantry Officer.  Ill let my officer buddies know to spend more time at work and less time playing parade.  (scratching head)

I guess the Infantry I grew up in is different than yours.


I guess so. because when I was at the company level, I rarely got saluted. Maybe if we were on a base.........um no cause whenever we were on post we were inthe field. Sorry. I would love to say I was saluted but i wasnt that much nor other officers in my company. i remember at Annual training and we were at the DFAC. Active duty guys saluted me all the time. NG soldiers, not so much. Of course this wasnt an Infantry unit. It is the current unit I am in.


DG

I watched the inuguration all day Tuesday.

I saw President Obama get saluted about 200-300 times.

Not once did I see him return the salute.

Rather, he acted like he did not see the salute or the military serviceman rendering the salute.

I assumed it is because he does not have a familiarity with the interaction or feel comfortable.  ??? 

In the election, it was not brought up much about his military service.  But it is showing now.

BTW, I am excited about the possibilities about what our new President can do for our country, and the difficult times we are facing.



FlexCoder

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Obama did not salute any of the soldiers during Memorial Day & the fourth of July last year as well.    He was aware, just not a pro military type.  We all hope he does well too and does not change the Constitution.  However, the economy will get worse before it gets better unfortunately.   Nothing to be excited about yet.   Time will tell though.   

BrianH76

I found this picture of President Obama during the inaugural parade.  Pretty sharp, I thought.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/central-inauguration-parade-pg,1,6618532.photogallery


Major Carrales

Guys, lay off the politics.  There are umpteen forums were any one of us can go to "Bush bash," "McCain Defame" or "Obama hate."  Let this be one where we don't.

The last thing I intend to write on the matter is this...

Our new CinC is our President and we wish him well because "so goes an administration, so goes the nation."  Support the good governance of our nation.  Stop being Republicans and Democrats, conservatives and liberals and "red vs Blue;" stop the "gang warfare." 

T'was written best by President Washington in his farewell...
"The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism." 

Thus we see it here...the hatred of a man for pure political reasons.  Smart man that Washington, we ought best start listening.  We can all salute him best by reexamining our mantles of political discourse.
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Flying Pig

I think we have behaved pretty well.  There really hasnt been any "bashing"  except for one post.

DG

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Quote from: BrianH76 on January 24, 2009, 03:58:42 PM
I found this picture of President Obama during the inaugural parade.  Pretty sharp, I thought.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/central-inauguration-parade-pg,1,6618532.photogallery

Saluting the flag.

So he sulutes the flag, even if he does not return a salute.

Major Carrales

Quote from: Flying Pig on January 24, 2009, 04:16:36 PM
I think we have behaved pretty well.  There really hasnt been any "bashing"  except for one post.

I am well aware, there was only on incident on this thread that walked the line; however, what I said needs to be said as often as it can. 
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RogueLeader

Quote from: Major Carrales on January 24, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
I am well aware, there was only on incident on this thread that walked the line; however, what I said needs to be said as often as it can. 

So it is ok that he salutes the colors, but not retuning the ones that defend the colors?  I do not thaink that the statement was out of line.  Pres. Obamas' actions have brought a valid question.

It is my belief that you are implying DG was wrong by making a stament about Pres. Obamas conduct.
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PHall

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Quote from: DG on January 24, 2009, 06:33:28 PM
Quote from: BrianH76 on January 24, 2009, 03:58:42 PM
I found this picture of President Obama during the inaugural parade.  Pretty sharp, I thought.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/politics/central-inauguration-parade-pg,1,6618532.photogallery

Saluting the flag.

So he sulutes the flag, even if he does not return a salute.

Well, like it was stated earlier in this thread, he's not required to return salutes. It's only a tradition that was started by President Reagan.

President Obama has pretty much zero experience with the military, which is pretty much the norm for his generation.

But, I'm sure if a well written, polite inquiry sent to the President on why he doesn't return salutes would get some kind of reply.

And maybe some returned salutes in the future.


DG

Just stating the facts.

Observations, not opinions.

DG

I thought his reference to one post was to the guy who said in an immediaetly prior post that:

"^^ I wonder how many martin's WJC had just polished off before this picture was taken"




Rotorhead

Quote from: FlexCoder on January 24, 2009, 09:34:17 AM
Obama did not salute any of the soldiers during Memorial Day & the fourth of July last year as well.    He was aware, just not a pro military type.  We all hope he does well too and does not change the Constitution. 

The President cannot "change the Constitution."
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Major Carrales

Quote from: RogueLeader on January 24, 2009, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on January 24, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
I am well aware, there was only one incident on this thread that walked the line; however, what I said needs to be said as often as it can. 

So it is ok that he salutes the colors, but not retuning the ones that defend the colors?  I do not thaink that the statement was out of line.  Pres. Obamas' actions have brought a valid question.

It is my belief that you are implying DG was wrong by making a stament about Pres. Obamas conduct.

The One I am refering to is...

QuoteEven though I think Obama is the biggest #%$$&^%$#*&^

I am saddened that some of you are not able to rise above petty political jabs and just have to "go there."  Obama was not my candidate, however, I believe in being fair and objective.  He was not President a week before people have already started trying to make mountians out of molehills.

Well, be the prevailing view what they may but I am going to give President Obama the courtesy, fair shake and benefit of the doubt that Presidents Clinton and Bush did not get.

I would suggest you people let the new President's adminsitration omplete the first 100 days before saying... "The President doesn't salute" this or that.

C'mon folks, a degree of civilty would be nice.
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Gunner C

Quote from: FlexCoder on January 24, 2009, 09:34:17 AM
Obama did not salute any of the soldiers during Memorial Day & the fourth of July last year as well. 
He wasn't the commander-in-chief at the time.  Senators don't salute (unless they're retired or reserve military officers)

JayT

Quote from: RogueLeader on January 24, 2009, 06:53:41 PM
Quote from: Major Carrales on January 24, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
I am well aware, there was only on incident on this thread that walked the line; however, what I said needs to be said as often as it can. 

So it is ok that he salutes the colors, but not retuning the ones that defend the colors?  I do not thaink that the statement was out of line.  Pres. Obamas' actions have brought a valid question.

It is my belief that you are implying DG was wrong by making a stament about Pres. Obamas conduct.

Is that really a 'valid question' less then a week into his presidency?

Not the crumbling econonmy, the enviroment thats collasping from under our feet, the multiple military engagements  we're committed to, the lack of proper equipment to our troops, residual racism in America, poverty, abortion rights, stem cell research, a low caliber education system, increasing college tution, a collapse of the social contract system, people losing their homes, etc etc?

No, let's worry about him saluting.

Let's get real gentlemen.

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 :clap: Couldnt have said it better myself

DG

[The One I am refering to is...

QuoteEven though I think Obama is the biggest #%$$&^%$#*&^

I agree completely.

Inapppropriate post for this forum.