CAP and Relationships?

[AngelWings]

We do have different opinions, the whole point of this thread was to see generally which ones exsist among both cadets and senior members.

[jeders]

We do have different opinions, the whole point of this thread was to see generally which ones exsist among both cadets and senior members.

That's fine, but there are numerous threads on here, all of which have gotten locked I think, discussing this. I suggest you search those threads first, then you'll know exactly how we all feel.

[AngelWings]

We do have different opinions, the whole point of this thread was to see generally which ones exsist among both cadets and senior members.

That's fine, but there are numerous threads on here, all of which have gotten locked I think, discussing this. I suggest you search those threads first, then you'll know exactly how we all feel.

I failed to use logic at, what, 2330? I forgot we even had a search button to be honest. Sorry to all if this has been discussed before.

[Eclipse]

OK, BS flag thrown.

You've got enough history here under two different user names to know the unofficial attitude about lighting up new threads about controversial topics before using search.

[Майор Хаткевич]

Besides, failed logic at 2315 eastern time? Maybe you should go to bed earlier and not post then.

[Extremepredjudice]

Besides, failed logic at 2315 eastern time? Maybe you should go to bed earlier and not post then.

SIR, STOP MAKING SENSE!

[Angus]

Well they can be a problem.  I speak from witnessing one betwen two cadets,  they didn't know when to draw the line.  When they'd be in unform and at a conference they'd be walking around  holding hands and all that.  The big issue was that one of them was the Cadet Flight Sgt.    They met while in CAP and also part of two different squadrons, then one transferred to the other's unit.

[Ned]

Well they can be a problem. 

Captain, I don't think there is a single person on this board who would disagree with that statement.

Thank you for your work with our cadets.

[Flying Pig]

CAP is no different than dating someone who goes to your church, someone you sit in class with, work with.  People can screw it up regardless of the place.  Obviously SM/Cadet aint gonna fly.  But beyond that, lets face it..... people date people they have things in common with.

What amazes me is that SM/Cadet rule is relatively new...

I did actually know an SM and cadet who were dating.  Both were cadets and had been dating for a couple of years, planned on getting married.  At 18, the female decided to switch to SM because she was still a C/2Lt and the male, who was 18, decided to stayed on as a cadet because he wanted to try and finish up his Spaatz.  He was a C/LTC.  I dont know if hever did or if they ever ended up getting married.  Thats one where you would just need to keep anything it well clear of CAP activities.  The thing about that though is that they are both adults and If I recall more now that Im typing........ I think they actually lived together (in sin ) after she turned 18

[Майор Хаткевич]

Cadet and Cadet, with one turning SM I can understand, but then it does become an issue given the reg rules. I was thinking more of the cases where a 17/18 year old cadet dates a SM over 21.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

This has been covered ad nauseam.

In the interest of fairness, I will say that although it's been a loooooooong time ago, I do remember when I was a teenager, and the hormones started to run (for Trekkies, kind of like pon farr with Vulcans ).  Nature is nature, and it's going to take it's course.  The trick is how to manage it within the structure of CAP.

Before I met my dear wife, I remember seeing female SM's in CAP who I thought were quite attractive, but nothing ever came of it, partially because of my own personal reservedness, and partially because I didn't want my afterburners in a sling over perceived sexual harassment.  I joined CAP not long after the Anita Hill/Clarence Thomas issue and in workplaces (including CAP) there was kind of a walking-on-eggshells atmosphere.

As far as SM/cadet relationships - do not pass GO, do not collect $200.  If both are over 18, let the cadet transfer to the senior side so both can be compliant with regs.

Regs say nein to PDA's, whether cadets or seniors.  My wife doesn't even hold my hand in public when I'm in uniform.

Away from CAP the responsibility of putting limits on romantic relationships between cadet-age young people rests with parents/legal guardians.

[AngelWings]

OK, BS flag thrown.

You've got enough history here under two different user names to know the unofficial attitude about lighting up new threads about controversial topics before using search.

Sir, I was tired, and writing off impulse of a story told to me by a friend. Please understand, I had a brainfart.

[AngelWings]

Besides, failed logic at 2315 eastern time? Maybe you should go to bed earlier and not post then.

If you know what my last night entailed, you'd understand why I was up late and posting. As I previously stated, I had a brainfart. Forgive me.

[jacksmith60187]

OK, let me be the radical here. There is no -none - nada good reason to tell young cadets they cannot have a relationship in or out of uniform. Regs be [[darn]]ed. It is time for CAP and the military to grow up. Sheesh.

And, what are you going to do when two same sex cadets have a relationship? Huh? Whaddya gonna do???

[Eclipse]

OK, let me be the radical here. There is no -none - nada good reason to tell young cadets they cannot have a relationship in or out of uniform. Regs be [[darn]]ed. It is time for CAP and the military to grow up. Sheesh.

There's 10 good reasons to advise cadets of any age, and young cadets, especially, not to be having "relationships" at all.  The current slide
towards the relativism of "you can't judge" notwithstanding.

CAP should be treated like any other professional organization, and the bar should be raised for the cadets, too.  It is not a dating service, nor a dating pool, and to treat it otherwise is to risk your membership and possibly more, both financially and personally.

There's always a few random people who indicate a positive experience, or will boast about all they did discreetly, but there are probably 2- or 3- to 1 against those that end poorly, with many being "Ex-members" along with being "ex-boyfriends" (etc.).  And that goes double for the senior members.
The drama produced by these situations, not to mention the example set by people for whom discretion is a 4-letter word, is unnecessary, unneeded, and unacceptable to an organization like CAP.

And, what are you going to do when two same sex cadets have a relationship? Huh? Whaddya gonna do???

Nothing.  CAP has made it clear that they take no stance whatsoever on gender in regards to relationships beyond prohibiting discrimination.
However the same advice applies.

It's a bad idea, cadet, senior, or otherwise.

[jeders]

There is no -none - nada good reason to tell young cadets they cannot have a relationship in or out of uniform.

Sexual assault and sexual harassment seem like pretty good reasons.

The bottom line is that CAP is not for dating. For that matter neither is high school, but teens will do what teens will do. All we can do is set the standard and make sure that people live up to it. Keep it professional in uniform and at CAP and CAP related activities, and have fun when you're completely on your own time.

[jacksmith60187]

I think there should be a CAP safety presentation (online for monthly credit) regarding condom usage.

[Eclipse]

I think there should be a CAP safety presentation (online for monthly credit) regarding condom usage.

Don't complain the next time someone takes issue with your attitude.  Trolling here is pointless.

You also never answered the question as to whether you were currently a member.

[jacksmith60187]

I am a current member.

[ol'fido]

Are we flagellating a deceased equine on a uniform thread somewhere?