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Operations => Tools of the trade => Topic started by: Stonewall on April 16, 2021, 03:20:58 PM

Title: I bought a PLB
Post by: Stonewall on April 16, 2021, 03:20:58 PM
I got a wild hair and purchased an ACR PLB-425 ResQLink View personal locator beacon (PLB).  (https://www.acrartex.com/products/resqlink-view)

(https://www.survivalatsea.com/Images/ACR/PLB-425/PLB-425_-_Feature_Diagram_2000x2000.jpg)

I have become very curious about how the whole 406 MHz search and rescue response works so I was looking at DF equipment and then got into the process in which someone activates their beacon,  notification is made, teams/resources are activated, and ultimately, how is the person/target found.

Here is perfect diagram of how that process works:

(https://www.oroliamaritime.com/wp-content/uploads/simple_ecosystem-web.jpg)

Here's the interesting thing: it emits a 121.5 MHz signal.  My question is, at what strength?  Can that 121.5 signal be prosecuted by standard DF equipment such as the L'Per, Sniffer, or my favorite, the JetStream receiver?

In purchasing my PLB, it came with an official NOAA Registration Form (https://beaconregistration.noaa.gov/RGDB/index), that I opted to complete online. You have to provide a lot of information (three separate serial type numbers) to authenticate that this is YOUR beacon and all three identifying number/letter sequences have to match. You provide as many phone numbers as you can, your address, and two emergency contacts. I opted to include my wife and my work's 24/7 operations center that, for at least the next two years, knows everything about me, to include my vaccine record, DNA, and whereabouts. You have to re-register (update) every two years.

In layman's terms, here's how  it works:
-   You're lost: turn on your PLB (it has pictures with how to do this)
-   Remain in the same place, do not move
-   SARSAT will pick up your signal and location (pinpointed to exact location +/- a few feet)
-   NOAA will contact the local (to your location) authorities  (could be LE/Fire/EMS or the fish and wildlife agency, or anyone)
-   They will move to your last known location as provided by NOAA
-   If you moved, doom on you, but you should be rescued
-   Go home, eat, rest, then go onto survivorclub.com and share your story
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Eclipse on April 16, 2021, 03:24:00 PM
Confused.

Who gets the ribbon?
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: NovemberWhiskey on April 16, 2021, 06:31:00 PM
Quote from: Stonewall on April 16, 2021, 03:20:58 PMHere's the interesting thing: it emits a 121.5 MHz signal.  My question is, at what strength?  Can that 121.5 signal be prosecuted by standard DF equipment such as the L'Per, Sniffer, or my favorite, the JetStream receiver?

Typically 50-100mW. It's your standard 121.5 MHz AM "whoop-whoop" so absolutely, yes, you can localize it with standard DF equipment assuming you start off close enough.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: BJD on April 16, 2021, 06:31:48 PM
Your PLB 121.5 output power is between 25mW and 79mw.  That is a weak signal that is hard to pick up unless close by.  Be sure to read the full owners manual (not just the quick start guide).  Operator errors can cause substantial problems with location accuracy.  Accuracy also depends on which of the SarSat systems picks up the signal.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Stonewall on April 16, 2021, 07:46:36 PM
Quote from: BJD on April 16, 2021, 06:31:48 PMYour PLB 121.5 output power is between 25mW and 79mw.  That is a weak signal that is hard to pick up unless close by.  Be sure to read the full owners manual (not just the quick start guide).  Operator errors can cause substantial problems with location accuracy.  Accuracy also depends on which of the SarSat systems picks up the signal.

I did all that before I ordered it.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: etodd on April 16, 2021, 09:34:40 PM
I got a Spot awhile back. Great reviews and over 7500 saves thus far. I'd bet with virtually zero CAP assistance.

Find Me Spot (https://www.findmespot.com/en-us/products-services/spot-gen4)

Not only as a PLB, but will also send messages to people on your list to let them know you're ok. And will leave breadcrumbs so people can follow your progress online.  Nice system.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: NovemberWhiskey on April 16, 2021, 10:11:05 PM
SPOT is not a PLB. It is a satellite messenger with commercially operated emergency response centers which will escalate to SAR functions on your behalf.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: etodd on April 17, 2021, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: NovemberWhiskey on April 16, 2021, 10:11:05 PMSPOT is not a PLB. It is a satellite messenger with commercially operated emergency response centers which will escalate to SAR functions on your behalf.


True, which makes it even better. But all these types of devices have various uses which will suit people's needs. A good thing. Signals sent to satellites so centers can all the local folks quickly. Cuts response time considerably over the typical CAP time (Excepting the cell phone response team of course). New technologies replace the buggie whips. :)
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: NovemberWhiskey on April 17, 2021, 04:41:03 PM
Quote from: etodd on April 17, 2021, 12:17:59 AMTrue, which makes it even better.
Well, it makes it different. Comparing satellite messengers like SPOT vs. PLBs, the following are noteworthy:


This is definitely a case of "choose the right tool for the job".
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Eclipse on April 17, 2021, 05:17:42 PM
Best practice:

"No bars, you've gone too far."
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Spaceman3750 on April 18, 2021, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 17, 2021, 05:17:42 PMBest practice:

"No bars, you've gone too far."
On your cell carrier, that was basically the case whenever I walked inside my home, office, or drove between two towns.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Eclipse on April 18, 2021, 02:50:27 PM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on April 18, 2021, 02:46:35 PMthat was basically the case whenever I walked inside my home, office, or drove between two towns

Knowing where you live, this makes my point.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: PHall on April 18, 2021, 05:12:22 PM
I can get "no bars" in many locations in the Los Angeles Basin.
Title: Re: I bought a PLB
Post by: Eclipse on April 18, 2021, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: PHall on April 18, 2021, 05:12:22 PMI can get "no bars" in many locations in the Los Angeles Basin.

Anyone who has been there knows it's not fit for man nor beast.  Best to steer clear.