wing patch/grade insignia for bdu covers

[1sgtarcherCT062]

my first question, is the wing patch mandatory on bdus? my second question, is it mandatory that the grade insignia on our bdu covers have to be cloth?

[Hawk200]

No, and yes. If you're a First Sergeant as your username implies, you will not wear rank insignia on your hat.

[MIKE]

The wing patch is supposed to be optional, but some wings may vary on their interpretation of "optional."

[DC]

Some wings such as FL, have made the wing patch mandatory. Some wings make it optional, and I believe some wings ban it. PA has their people wear the wing patch if they have not been to Hawk Mountain, they wear the HM patch if they have.

As for grade insignia on covers, yes it must be cloth, and that is only for cadet officers and senior members, cadet airmen and NCOs only wear collar insignia, which is metal.

[1sgtarcherCT062]

thanks a bunch

[JoeTomasone]

To be technical about it, National made the Wing Patch optional, FLWG published a supplement making it mandatory.   This caused some problems at an encapment when some of the staff didn't get the word and went about ripping the patches off of some of the cadets who attended.

Officers (Cadet and Senior) wear embroidered grade insignia on the BDU cap.

[mikeylikey]

PA has their people wear the wing patch if they have not been to Hawk Mountain, they wear the HM patch if they have.

Stupid PAWG.  Clearly violating the rules, yet National Leadership lets them get away with it.  

[DC]

This caused some problems at an encapment when some of the staff didn't get the word and went about ripping the patches off of some of the cadets who attended.

I would be so furious if that happened to me it's not funny. No one has the right to go around and rip patches off of other people's uniforms. Especially when they are doing it in ignorance of the proper mandate.

[cap235629]

just a clarification for those of us "Fat and Fuzzies"  Metal rank insignia is authorized on the BLUE BDU hat.....

[MIKE]

just a clarification for those of us "Fat and Fuzzies"  Metal rank insignia is authorized on the BLUE BDU hat.....

For senior members.

Edit:  May have to retract the above comment of mine... Latest ICL on the subject doesn't specify; however the previous did IIRC.

[SSgt Rudin]

To be technical about it, National made the Wing Patch optional, FLWG published a supplement making it mandatory.   This caused some problems at an encapment when some of the staff didn't get the word and went about ripping the patches off of some of the cadets who attended.

Officers (Cadet and Senior) wear embroidered grade insignia on the BDU cap.

Everyone keeps saying there is a FLWG supplement saying the wing patch is required but it isn't on the wing web site, the last supplement to 39-1 on the wing website is dated 01 Feb 04.

[JoeTomasone]

Everyone keeps saying there is a FLWG supplement saying the wing patch is required but it isn't on the wing web site, the last supplement to 39-1 on the wing website is dated 01 Feb 04.

My bad - it's a policy, not a supplement.

http://flwg.us/WPL_06-02_Patch_Policy.pdf

[davedove]

just a clarification for those of us "Fat and Fuzzies"  Metal rank insignia is authorized on the BLUE BDU hat.....

That would be fine at the squadron building, but I don't think I would want to be wondering around out in the field that way, where every tree branch is just waiting for the opportunity to drive those metal posts into your forehead.

[Eclipse]

^I have yet to find a way to put the pin on which does not have the bottom frog poking right through the
center of the head band.

[MIKE]

Because somebody read AFI 36-2903 wrong when they were writing the placement for CAP.

[0]

That would be fine at the squadron building, but I don't think I would want to be wondering around out in the field that way, where every tree branch is just waiting for the opportunity to drive those metal posts into your forehead.

Well in that case you don't have to wear the cover.  Unless your wing has a suppliment or policy on it, you only have to wear the cover if you're also wearing your Field Jacket aside from that cover is optional.

[Eclipse]

Well in that case you don't have to wear the cover.  Unless your wing has a suppliment or policy on it, you only have to wear the cover if you're also wearing your Field Jacket aside from that cover is optional.

?

There is no cover required for the blue field uniform, however with that said, whether yo wear one or not has no connection to whether you are wearing a field jacket (which is also not required).

[davedove]

Well in that case you don't have to wear the cover.  Unless your wing has a suppliment or policy on it, you only have to wear the cover if you're also wearing your Field Jacket aside from that cover is optional.

Well, since I am folically challenged, I DO need to wear the hat any time I am outside.

[0]

Well, since I am folically challenged, I DO need to wear the hat any time I am outside.

That's a horse of a different color.

?

There is no cover required for the blue field uniform, however with that said, whether yo wear one or not has no connection to whether you are wearing a field jacket (which is also not required).

My mistake i reread  the regs.  I could have sworn that I read somewhere if you had the field jacket on that cover was then required.

Edit:  I just found it.  Go to page 15 of the 39-1,  Chapter 4, CAP distinctive.  Read what is says about headgear.

[0]

That's a horse of a different color.


My mistake i reread the regs.  I could have sworn that I read somewhere if you had the field jacket on that cover was then required.

Edit:  I just found it.  Go to page 15 of the 39-1,  Chapter 4, CAP distinctive.  Read what is says about headgear.