CAP NCO Epaulets

[vento]

I assume these are to be worn with the outergarments. But why is the design of the chevron inconsistent with the design that was just released by CAP? If it is correct, then it looks odd when compared with the chevrons on the sleeves. If it is wrong, then Vanguard better be notified and not sell any to our members since they are non-returnable.

[Гугл переводчик]

If you were prior military you are authorized to wear the AF stripes, as long as there's "CAP", like pictured

[arajca]

Nope. These USED TO BE authorized, but with the latest version of CAPM 39-1, they no longer are. They were meant to allow NCOs to wear their stripes without sewing them on.

[Eclipse]

Now those 100 guys wear blank epaulets sleeves and sew the new stripes to their shirts.

[AlphaSigOU]

Now those 100 guys wear blank epaulets sleeves and sew the new stripes to their shirts.

With the release of the new 39-1, the blank epaulets are reserved for adult members - ahem - senior members pursuing an officer track. Adult members pursuing NCO grade do not wear the blank grade slides; when they are appointed to CAP NCO grade they wear the stripes on their sleeve. USAF-style chevrons may be worn by those who have earned their stripes in the military, with metal CAP cutouts on the collar until 2015. The new CAP NCO stripes are now available from Vanguard; if these are worn, CAP cutouts are not worn on the collar. The enlisted US cutouts are worn only on the AF-style service dress jacket.

[vento]

^^ At the same time the new 39-1 (page 75) says that NCO wear the epaulet (slides) on their outer garments. So, is it ok for a CAP NCO to wear the slides currently sold by Vanguard?

[lordmonar]

Good question.

I'll ping NHQ and find out for you.

[lordmonar]

NUC informs me theses are old and cannot be worn past the phase out date in 2015.  Still working with vanguard on the new NCO stuff for outerwear etc

[vento]

Thanks for checking and informing the membership. 
Vanguard should really add the note about the phase out date of 2015 for the slides are non returnable.

[NC Hokie]

Vanguard should really add the note about the phase out date of 2015 for the slides are non returnable.

To be fair, I wouldn't expect Vanguard to do this if thay don't already do the same for their other insignia customers (Army, Navy, etc.).

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Maybe there is something I am not getting, but do not adult members pursuing NCO grade have to have already been NCO's?  Or has that changed?

I was not an NCO, but at this stage of my CAP career, if it were available to me, I would strongly consider trading my Captain's bars for being a promotable SrA.

As well, those new(ish) slides from VG look dangerously close to having too much blue in them...

[Eclipse]

Maybe there is something I am not getting, but do not adult members pursuing NCO grade have to have already been NCO's?  Or has that changed?

As of the current 35-5, yes.

The difference being that they can now, potentially, promote within CAP, whether they promote externally or not.

How that is going to work, especially considering that it's not possible without accepting a billet at higher HQ,
and those CCs aren't required to >have< an NCO at all, remains to be seen.

The typically CAP-important parts (insignia, promotions) had to get done before the trivial stuff like
actual NCO duties, why this is necessary, the problem this doesn't make worse, etc., etc.

[lordmonar]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

[Garibaldi]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

The horse has been beaten unto death. The cart is stuck in procurement channels due to the recent sequester.

[Eclipse]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

People who have no need for a cart should not buy one.

[johnnyb47]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

People who have no need for a cart should not buy one.

Hmm...
Didn't know they even HAD these...

[Eclipse]

Awesome.

[ColonelJack]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

People who have no need for a cart should not buy one.

Hmm...
Didn't know they even HAD these...

You win the Internet.

Jack

[Treadhead]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

People who have no need for a cart should not buy one.

Then what would they do with the horse?

[PHall]

Got to have a cart to out a horse in front of

People who have no need for a cart should not buy one.

Then what would they do with the horse?

Sell it to a California SMR member with a large profit margin!