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Title: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
I was talking with a fellow member the other day about tattoos. And he mentioned he saw a picture of a CAP tattoo.
So that got me wondering if anyone here has a CAP tattoo?

A few of my AD buddies said that would be a "boy scout" tattoo, and dumb. But to me the point of a tattoo is something that means something to the person getting it.

So, anyone out there have any?
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: jimmydeanno on April 25, 2012, 07:35:45 PM
The year I was a student at RSC, there was a guy from CTWG that had a giant CAP Command Patch tattooed on his forearm.  Would I do it?  No, especially with all the uniform changes, that tat would be outdated in months!   >:D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 25, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
I am heavily considering getting a tattoo of the triangle thingy... :o   I couldn't even keep a straight face while typing that hahaha!!!

I really am considering a CAP tattoo or two. I have plenty of Army tattoos, and they mean a lot to me, and a CAP tattoo would too
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Pylon on April 25, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
I've personally seen two CAP tattoos: one eagle + tri-prop device, and one set of CAP command pilot wings.  I don't see anything weird about it, especially for people who have spent a long time in CAP and feel strong ties to it.  Many people serve 4 years in one of the Armed Forces and get a related tattoo, so if you're the tattoo-getting-type why would it be weird for CAP members who often spend 5, 10, or 20+ years in CAP?   I'd consider it.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: johnnyb47 on April 25, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
I want a COMMS patch tattooed on my left side about the ribs.
That way when my ground wire fails and I get fried to the point that my BDU's burn off my body no one will be surprised.
"Oh my what happ..... oh... comms guy... big shock"
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Eclipse on April 25, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Pylon on April 25, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
I've personally seen two CAP tattoos: one eagle + tri-prop device, and one set of CAP command pilot wings.  I don't see anything weird about it, especially for people who have spent a long time in CAP and feel strong ties to it.  Many people serve 4 years in one of the Armed Forces and get a related tattoo, so if you're the tattoo-getting-type why would it be weird for CAP members who often spend 5, 10, or 20+ years in CAP?   I'd consider it.

+1 - people get tattoos for cars they drive, bikes they ride, and favorite cartoons, so as above, spend 20-60 hours a week on
something you feel passionate about and if you're the ink-inclined, then CAP ink doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.

The almighty Tedda apparently has one.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 09:33:52 PM
Excellent! Now for the main reason I ask. It's something I've been considering getting. I've always wanted one, but want something that has a meaning behind it. 10 years now and going strong, I think I will.

Now I just have to figure out the best one. I have an idea for the Hap Arnold with the blue CAP emblem above it and putting the Eaker ribbon (my highest cadet rank) either above or below it.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Eeyore on April 25, 2012, 09:43:14 PM
I foresee a C&D letter from national for not purchasing the tattoo through Vanguard.  ;D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
Quote from: edmo1 on April 25, 2012, 09:43:14 PM
I foresee a C&D letter from national for not purchasing the tattoo through Vanguard.  ;D

Why did I not see this coming?!  ;)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: MSG Mac on April 25, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
The Viet Cong have put enough scars on my body. I don't need to pay for one.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 25, 2012, 11:19:01 PM
Tattoos are becoming less "taboo" these days.

As a cadet I was in the group that wanted something tattooed. It took me about seven years to arrive at a design that I KNEW I wouldn't regret at any future date. I ended up getting the Coat of Arms of my hometown in Europe, the name of the town in my native language, and the artist added a very nice wrap around the simple shield design of the coat of arms. 

Mom yelled at me. Grandmother, when she moved here understood. It may not be a homeland I'm proud of, but it is part of my life and my history.

As for CAP tattoo's, I considered the wing patch before they were removed from the uniforms. I briefly considered a unit patch tattoo. In the long run both seemed silly to an extent, but certainly nothing that bad.

With a 4 year hiatus from active CAP participation for college, I still don't think it will be something "strange" but I'll really need to consider a design that will make sense for >ME<.

Only time will tell.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Eclipse on April 25, 2012, 11:33:13 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 25, 2012, 11:19:01 PMI ended up getting the Coat of Arms of my hometown in Europe, 

(http://images.esellerpro.com/2243/I/130/97/medscalehello-kitty-fleece-blanket%20(2).JPG)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 25, 2012, 11:44:09 PM
That's real funny sir.

But it was actually this:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a302/USAFAUX2004/sovietsweden.png)

(http://imageshack.us/f/29/sovietsweden.png/)
(I'm kidding!)


The actual thing turned out like this:
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a302/USAFAUX2004/288096_1887877411216_1669860241_1419364_8266770_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 25, 2012, 11:51:17 PM
Quote from: Pylon on April 25, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
I've personally seen two CAP tattoos: one eagle + tri-prop device, and one set of CAP command pilot wings.  I don't see anything weird about it, especially for people who have spent a long time in CAP and feel strong ties to it.  Many people serve 4 years in one of the Armed Forces and get a related tattoo, so if you're the tattoo-getting-type why would it be weird for CAP members who often spend 5, 10, or 20+ years in CAP?   I'd consider it.

You've seen three, doof.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Eclipse on April 26, 2012, 12:05:30 AM
Yowsa!  Pretty big!
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 26, 2012, 12:45:28 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on April 26, 2012, 12:05:30 AM
Yowsa!  Pretty big!

If that's a comment on my post, then not that big. It's a wee bit bigger than the picture loaded on my 10.1" screen, but for reference, just a bit bigger length-wise than the PWK patch.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: AngelWings on April 26, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
Quote from: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
A few of my AD buddies said that would be a "boy scout" tattoo, and dumb. But to me the point of a tattoo is something that means something to the person getting it.
Well, that's their problem. I've heard people say military tattoo's are for tools, and he was in the military. Everyone will have their opinion.

I, personally, would NEVER get a CAP tattoo. I wouldn't mind a military tattoo, but a CAP tattoo would look awful IMHO. We don't have the BA type of job. I mean, c'mon, you'd look stupid with a CAP plane tattoo'd on you, the triangle thingy would make anyone look like a tool. Someone would have to show me a good looking CAP tattoo.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 26, 2012, 01:31:00 AM
For those text inclinded, "Semper Vigilans"?
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 26, 2012, 02:00:31 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
Someone would have to show me a good looking CAP tattoo.

You ain't seen mine.. LOL
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Pylon on April 26, 2012, 02:40:47 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
Quote from: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
A few of my AD buddies said that would be a "boy scout" tattoo, and dumb. But to me the point of a tattoo is something that means something to the person getting it.
Well, that's their problem. I've heard people say military tattoo's are for tools, and he was in the military. Everyone will have their opinion.


YMMV. Somebody somewhere always thinks that what you do is lame or "boy scout" or would think you getting a tattoo for that is silly.  Recon guys have looked down on grunts, grunts look down on pogues, active duty guys would chide a reservist for being too "moto" for getting a tattoo, and I'm sure even a reservist or two has looked down on the Guard guys as being ridiculous for getting a tattoo.  If you're the tattoo type, you should get what's important and has meaning to you -- not what other people think you should have or get.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 26, 2012, 02:56:35 AM
I was given some flak about my left leg tattoos, but I reall don't care.

I have the Screaming Eagles 101st ABN patch on the inside of my shin, the 506PIR crest on the outside, and in a tribalish spade with my CIB and AASLT wings inside it. I love them like crazy, and they are pretty big. People in the Army have told me, you won't be in the same unit forever. No, it was likely that I wouldn't, but it was likely I would never be as proud of another unit.

The CAP patch I am thinking of, and I know I am going to catch flak for it here (not now that I said it), but I am thinking of the dog patch. I like it and ES is my big motivator in CAP.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: RogueLeader on April 26, 2012, 04:17:40 AM
I've been toying with the idea of getting my GTL badge and Observer Wings tattooed on upper left chest, and my Army unit on left arm, the 20th ENG BDE with Airborne Tab.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SPD6696 on April 26, 2012, 04:28:07 AM
If it's something important to you, go for it.  Don't let some jackwagon make you feel like a lesser person just because it's a CAP design you want.   Personally, I think it would mean more, and be more honorable than some others I've seen, such as a Harley tat, or a sports team tat (a sports team that the person wasn't on, but, is just a fan of....).

I have tats from the 3 service branches I was in, including one of my combat patch.  I have a tat of my friend's badge, who was murdered in the line of duty.  Tats can be very personal and honorific, or, they can be completely stupid. 

Just don't get a tramp stamp...
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SarDragon on April 26, 2012, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: NIN on April 26, 2012, 02:00:31 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
Someone would have to show me a good looking CAP tattoo.

You ain't seen mine.. LOL

I've seen pix. It's one BA tat!
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: AngelWings on April 26, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on April 26, 2012, 04:38:06 AM
Quote from: NIN on April 26, 2012, 02:00:31 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 01:20:41 AM
Someone would have to show me a good looking CAP tattoo.

You ain't seen mine.. LOL

I've seen pix. It's one BA tat!
Let's see it  ;)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Private Investigator on April 26, 2012, 12:34:08 PM
Quote from: MSG Mac on April 25, 2012, 11:00:55 PM
The Viet Cong have put enough scars on my body. I don't need to pay for one.

SAT CONG   8)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Private Investigator on April 26, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: SPD6696 on April 26, 2012, 04:28:07 AM
Just don't get a tramp stamp...

You are talking about guys getting a tramp stamp? Because some ladies can really rock a "tramp stamp"   8)

Most of mine are military related. The one that really stands out is "BEIRUT 10-23-83".
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Pylon on April 26, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on April 26, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
"BEIRUT 10-23-83".

:clap:   Rah. Semper Fi, sir.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on April 26, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
Thanks for the input guys!

You're all right. If it means something, then that's all I need. Not sure why I care what a couple of my friends think about it.

I was going to post a picture of what I want, but I guess I don't have a high enough post count to do it. Time to start spamming the world of CAPTalk!
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Pylon on April 26, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on April 26, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
I was going to post a picture of what I want, but I guess I don't have a high enough post count to do it. Time to start spamming the world of CAPTalk!

Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on April 26, 2012, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Pylon on April 26, 2012, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on April 26, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
I was going to post a picture of what I want, but I guess I don't have a high enough post count to do it. Time to start spamming the world of CAPTalk!

Fixed that for you.

Thank you, Mr. Pylon!

I want to put the Eaker ribbon above or below since it was my highest cadet rank.
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 26, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Let's see it  ;)

(http://www.cadetstuff.org/images/tat.jpg)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SamFranklin on April 26, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
"Tattooing has traditionally been a marginal activity among civilized people, the calling card of cannibals, sailors, and whores. The appropriate place for it is on the margins, in the back alleys, the skid rows. The mainstreaming of tattoos (on main street) is a harbinger of social dysfunction."

-- James Howard Kunstler

fwiw, ymmv
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 26, 2012, 05:28:42 PM
Quote from: SamFranklin on April 26, 2012, 05:13:05 PM
"Tattooing has traditionally been a marginal activity among civilized people, the calling card of cannibals, sailors, and whores. The appropriate place for it is on the margins, in the back alleys, the skid rows. The mainstreaming of tattoos (on main street) is a harbinger of social dysfunction."

Kunstler is a bit of a crackpot, dontchathink? The guy who in the interest of furthering his position on transportation claimed that the nation's third largest port (NY) had "next-to-zero" operating docks. (yeah, I suppose the 150 Million tons of cargo shipped thru there in 2008, when he said this, got from ship to shore via magic?)

So I'll buy a couple more boxes of ammo every time I see a new tattoo parlor crop up, since, you know, that certainly represents the end of civilization as we know it and I wanna be prepared.

Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: johnnyb47 on April 26, 2012, 05:31:57 PM
QuoteWriting this in April of '99, I believe that we are in for a serious event. Systems will fail, crash, seize up, cease to function. Not all systems, maybe only a fraction, but enough, and enough interdependent systems to affect many other systems. Y2K is real. Y2K is going to rock our world.
-- James Howard Kunstler

;D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 26, 2012, 05:36:00 PM
Quote from: johnnyb47 on April 26, 2012, 05:31:57 PM
QuoteWriting this in April of '99, I believe that we are in for a serious event. Systems will fail, crash, seize up, cease to function. Not all systems, maybe only a fraction, but enough, and enough interdependent systems to affect many other systems. Y2K is real. Y2K is going to rock our world.
-- James Howard Kunstler

;D

Exactly.  Nero fiddled while Rome burned, but I went to Disney for Y2K.  Didn't even get stuck on Space Mountain.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: johnnyb47 on April 26, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
Incidentally I think the quote above was used a little out of context. Kunstler was saying, "I'm not a fan of tattos but I think our society is generally 'borked' when you start seeing tattoo parlours crop up on mainstreet in the nice part of town!"
Basically a slightly more eloquent way of saying, "Not in my back yard!"

Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: GroundHawg on April 26, 2012, 08:12:54 PM
So back in 1995 I had been at Ft. Bragg for about a month when I found myself in the chair of one of the many local ink shops. I picked out a sweet jump wings tat and was getting ready to get inked up and I asked the guy "how many wings have you done?" he looked at me with almost contempt and said "Today?"
I realized then, that I didnt need a tattoo and got up from the chair. Ive been tempted since then, but have remained clean somehow.

Tattoos and scars are different things....
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: AngelWings on April 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Quote from: NIN on April 26, 2012, 04:17:28 PM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
Let's see it  ;)

(http://www.cadetstuff.org/images/tat.jpg)
Not all that bad, but not my personal taste. I prefer more subdued colors (not like subdued patches, but darker blues, reds, silvers, whatnot)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: titanII on April 27, 2012, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
I prefer more subdued colors (not like subdued patches, but darker blues, reds, silvers, whatnot)
If/when I get a tattoo, it's gonna be all black. I've heard (and seen on several relative's tat's) that colors can fade with time. Not that it'll matter by the time I'm all wrinkly, though  >:D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 01:55:07 AM
Quote from: titanII on April 27, 2012, 12:20:54 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
I prefer more subdued colors (not like subdued patches, but darker blues, reds, silvers, whatnot)
If/when I get a tattoo, it's gonna be all black. I've heard (and seen on several relative's tat's) that colors can fade with time. Not that it'll matter by the time I'm all wrinkly, though  >:D
I can't remember the name of the ink, but my tattoo artist uses a black ink that he says is pretty much like the India ink of tattoo inks. It is really deep, and it is still able to fade in and out really well. I love how deep it looks, and all of my tattoos are done in it. I am even having a heck of a time using wrecking balm on a couple that I am trying to fade so that they will cover easily, and the ink just wants to stay.  So make sure you really want it, because it is the permanent of permanent modification.

The oldest tattoo I have is about nine years old, and I don't notice any change in depth of color or fading, or spreading.
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 27, 2012, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Not all that bad, but not my personal taste. I prefer more subdued colors (not like subdued patches, but darker blues, reds, silvers, whatnot)

(http://www.cadetstuff.org/images/cap_para.gif)

Considering the CAP WWII wings were not "more subdued"....
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: AngelWings on April 27, 2012, 02:04:38 AM
Quote from: NIN on April 27, 2012, 01:58:25 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 26, 2012, 09:29:13 PM
Not all that bad, but not my personal taste. I prefer more subdued colors (not like subdued patches, but darker blues, reds, silvers, whatnot)

(http://www.cadetstuff.org/images/cap_para.gif)

Considering the CAP WWII wings were not "more subdued"....
I wasn't trying to offend you or make any negative remarks against the tattoo.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 27, 2012, 03:24:38 AM
Comparing the patch and the tattoo, the artist did a good job on the details!
Title: Re: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: NIN on April 27, 2012, 03:34:42 AM
Quote from: Littleguy on April 27, 2012, 02:04:38 AM
I wasn't trying to offend you or make any negative remarks against the tattoo.

Not taken that way, just sayin'

Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: RRLE on April 27, 2012, 12:02:12 PM
For the sake of curiosity, does CAP have a policy on tattoos, body piercings etc.

The armed services have gone back and forth in recent years over the placement of tattoos, especially on recruits. Existing members tend to be grandfathered in, unless the tats are racists, sexist etc.

From general reading, it appears that the services will not accept a member if the tat is visible outside regulation t-shirts or shorts. Big no-nos are tats on the hands, face and neck. Lower legs and lower arms tend to be out since they are also visible.

So what is CAP's policy, if any, before anyone gets inked.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:12:32 PM
Nothing that shows above the collar while in uniform, and no more than 30% of the skin surface on the arms while wearing short sleeves or rolled up sleeves. That is the easiest explanation for the reg.

If you have more than that, it is corporate uniforms.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 27, 2012, 12:25:50 PM
Quote from: johnnyb47 on April 26, 2012, 05:44:48 PM
Incidentally I think the quote above was used a little out of context. Kunstler was saying, "I'm not a fan of tattos but I think our society is generally 'borked' when you start seeing tattoo parlours crop up on mainstreet in the nice part of town!"
Basically a slightly more eloquent way of saying, "Not in my back yard!"

The reason I finally went in for a tattoo was because the business opened on the plaza closest to where my parents live. Another city denied a permit to the owners (a husband and wife), and our city allowed them in.

Their place was clean, they were nice, and the "crowd" that was there all the time was nowhere near the quoted types. If I decide to go in for another one, I'll be going to them, because I really liked how friendly they were.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
It's the same way in my tattoo parlor (the one I go to). They are really cool people and they do great work! It's just too bad I have to take a weekend to go to Clarksville Tennessee to get one, so I haven't gotten one since 2008, and I am itching for a new one, my wife is too. That would have to be the downside to tattoos, they can be addictive.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 27, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
It's the same way in my tattoo parlor (the one I go to). They are really cool people and they do great work! It's just too bad I have to take a weekend to go to Clarksville Tennessee to get one, so I haven't gotten one since 2008, and I am itching for a new one, my wife is too. That would have to be the downside to tattoos, they can be addictive.

In the end mine came out to $220, so I think the cost is also a "stop" for many.

I know a guy who had an upper arm sleeve done, and it cost him well over $800. Took 5 or 6 sessions to get done.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 27, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
It's the same way in my tattoo parlor (the one I go to). They are really cool people and they do great work! It's just too bad I have to take a weekend to go to Clarksville Tennessee to get one, so I haven't gotten one since 2008, and I am itching for a new one, my wife is too. That would have to be the downside to tattoos, they can be addictive.

In the end mine came out to $220, so I think the cost is also a "stop" for many.

I know a guy who had an upper arm sleeve done, and it cost him well over $800. Took 5 or 6 sessions to get done.

My left sleeve cost about 1000, and took one session, about seven or eight hours. It was almost a deal breaker for me... Almost. But I knew the guy could do it better than anyone, and I wouldn't have the chance for a long time to get another so I went for it, really glad I did too.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: fyrfitrmedic on April 28, 2012, 02:53:03 PM
 I have one that's related to my CAP activities, and one related to my fire and EMS activities. The CAP-related one will be embellished slightly should I accomplish some of my goals, and there may be another fire/EMS work done at some point.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: PHall on April 28, 2012, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 27, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
It's the same way in my tattoo parlor (the one I go to). They are really cool people and they do great work! It's just too bad I have to take a weekend to go to Clarksville Tennessee to get one, so I haven't gotten one since 2008, and I am itching for a new one, my wife is too. That would have to be the downside to tattoos, they can be addictive.

In the end mine came out to $220, so I think the cost is also a "stop" for many.

I know a guy who had an upper arm sleeve done, and it cost him well over $800. Took 5 or 6 sessions to get done.

My left sleeve cost about 1000, and took one session, about seven or eight hours. It was almost a deal breaker for me... Almost. But I knew the guy could do it better than anyone, and I wouldn't have the chance for a long time to get another so I went for it, really glad I did too.

You have a sleeve tattoo? Do you wear the AF style uniforms? Maybe a quick review of CAPM 39-1, Table 2-5, Item 7 is in order.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 28, 2012, 10:55:59 PM
I have read the 39-1, and the AFAM, I'm good so long as I only wear long sleeves.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: AngelWings on April 28, 2012, 11:35:14 PM
Quote from: PHall on April 28, 2012, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 27, 2012, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on April 27, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
It's the same way in my tattoo parlor (the one I go to). They are really cool people and they do great work! It's just too bad I have to take a weekend to go to Clarksville Tennessee to get one, so I haven't gotten one since 2008, and I am itching for a new one, my wife is too. That would have to be the downside to tattoos, they can be addictive.

In the end mine came out to $220, so I think the cost is also a "stop" for many.

I know a guy who had an upper arm sleeve done, and it cost him well over $800. Took 5 or 6 sessions to get done.

My left sleeve cost about 1000, and took one session, about seven or eight hours. It was almost a deal breaker for me... Almost. But I knew the guy could do it better than anyone, and I wouldn't have the chance for a long time to get another so I went for it, really glad I did too.

You have a sleeve tattoo? Do you wear the AF style uniforms? Maybe a quick review of CAPM 39-1, Table 2-5, Item 7 is in order.
As long as it doesn't cover more than 25% of his exposed limb it is good.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 28, 2012, 11:47:07 PM
We're I to roll my sleeves up, I would cover about 100% of my left arm, and about 50% of my right arm. But I only wear my sleeves down in BDUs, and I only wear long sleeve blues, pretty much only the service jacket. I think it's a bit silly to only wear the long sleeves without the jacket
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on April 29, 2012, 02:10:00 AM
 Yea, that's part of the reason the guy I know did the upper arm only. :P
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on April 29, 2012, 02:13:59 AM
Quote from: usafaux2004 on April 29, 2012, 02:10:00 AM
Yea, that's part of the reason the guy I know did the upper arm only. :P
When I got mine, I was in the Army, and I still don't regret it. But the Army was really laced on tattoos, so laced they were taking soldiers with tattoos on the neck, so long as they didn't go above the jaw or anywhere on the skull, and down to the first knuckles. I was still able to wear the short sleeved class Bs, but we only wore our class As anyways.

In the infantry there is no rolling up your sleeves past one cuff, so it was never an issue anyways.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Private Investigator on April 29, 2012, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: Pylon on April 26, 2012, 01:43:48 PM
Quote from: Private Investigator on April 26, 2012, 12:46:10 PM
"BEIRUT 10-23-83".

:clap:   Rah. Semper Fi, sir.

Semper Fi   :clap:
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Jamie Hurley on April 30, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
I've often thought about getting my drill team insignia tattooed. It was a major part of my CAP days, and essential in my development into who I am today. Never have gone through with it, but its as good a justification as any in my opinion.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
My personal views are thus:
If you want a tattoo, it's your body but...
I'm against it due to my religious beliefs.
I'm against it because I think they look ......unattractive.
I'm against it due to the potential medical problems.
I'm against it because of the social and/or professional difficulties they may sometimes create.
When you're 80+ years old and all wrinkled, your grand kids are gonna see it and say something like, "Eeeeew, Grandpa! What's that black stuff on your skin?!"

(Now let's see how much flaming I get from this professional forum.)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on May 01, 2012, 11:50:21 AM
You shouldn't get any flaming for your beliefs, besides, those are all things anyone getting a tattoo should think about before hand. I thought hard about the effects of a professional image in the workplace, but I knew I wanted to be career Army so it was a non issue for me. Now that I am out, I still don't worry about it much because I know that my experience should be able to overshadow my tattoos... I hope
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Pylon on May 01, 2012, 02:00:49 PM
Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
(Now let's see how much flaming I get from this professional forum.)

Those are fully valid points.  I would hope most people at least take those factors into consideration when deciding whether or not to get a tattoo.  While I plan on getting some ink once some particular near-term Marine Corps obligations that discourage tattoos are over, I have at least weighed the factors you mentioned in my decision process.  So I can respect your position; no flaming necessary.  To each his own.  They're certainly not for everybody.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 01, 2012, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
My personal views are thus:
If you want a tattoo, it's your body but...
I'm against it due to my religious beliefs.

Fair enough. To each his own.


Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
I'm against it because I think they look ......unattractive.

Again, to each his own.

Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
I'm against it due to the potential medical problems.

No higher than getting an ear piercing or cleaning out the attic (actually lower).

Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
I'm against it because of the social and/or professional difficulties they may sometimes create.

It may. Then again if I spent 4 years in college to have to end up working shirtless...

Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
When you're 80+ years old and all wrinkled, your grand kids are gonna see it and say something like, "Eeeeew, Grandpa! What's that black stuff on your skin?!"

Mine will be faded colors. :)

Quote from: Dad2-4 on May 01, 2012, 09:12:16 AM
(Now let's see how much flaming I get from this professional forum.)

Don't see why you would be flamed. You did state these were your own views.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on May 01, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
The risk is greater than a piercing, ifthe piercing gets infected, no biggie, take it out get some antibiotics and let it heal then Try again, if you are allergic to the earring, take it out and replace it with a metal your not allergic to.

If a tattoo gets infected, it will always look bad. If you are allergic to the ink though... You are up a creek, the skin will have to be cut away and it will take a long time to heal. If it is a circumferential tattoo covering enough skin surface on the arm or leg, you just might loose that arm or leg.

MUCH BIGGER RISK!
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Private Investigator on May 03, 2012, 08:47:09 AM
Is their an unofficial "CAP Talk" tattoo? I would think it would have something to symbolize the 'uniform thread' protocol we have in place here    :o
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on May 03, 2012, 01:25:27 PM
Hmm... There's some possibilities there.  ;)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Nathan on May 03, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 01, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
The risk is greater than a piercing, ifthe piercing gets infected, no biggie, take it out get some antibiotics and let it heal then Try again, if you are allergic to the earring, take it out and replace it with a metal your not allergic to.

If a tattoo gets infected, it will always look bad. If you are allergic to the ink though... You are up a creek, the skin will have to be cut away and it will take a long time to heal. If it is a circumferential tattoo covering enough skin surface on the arm or leg, you just might loose that arm or leg.

MUCH BIGGER RISK!

If you go to a reputable tattoo parlor, then your risk of any of this happening are pretty low. Tattoo artists actually have to go through a good deal of training and get a certification to work, and they find that business tends to be better when their clients don't end up deformed and amputated. There are always risks in everything you do, but like any professional, most of these places are aware of the risks and take great strides to reduce them as much as possible.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 03, 2012, 11:28:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 03, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 01, 2012, 08:09:32 PM
The risk is greater than a piercing, ifthe piercing gets infected, no biggie, take it out get some antibiotics and let it heal then Try again, if you are allergic to the earring, take it out and replace it with a metal your not allergic to.

If a tattoo gets infected, it will always look bad. If you are allergic to the ink though... You are up a creek, the skin will have to be cut away and it will take a long time to heal. If it is a circumferential tattoo covering enough skin surface on the arm or leg, you just might loose that arm or leg.

MUCH BIGGER RISK!

If you go to a reputable tattoo parlor, then your risk of any of this happening are pretty low. Tattoo artists actually have to go through a good deal of training and get a certification to work, and they find that business tends to be better when their clients don't end up deformed and amputated. There are always risks in everything you do, but like any professional, most of these places are aware of the risks and take great strides to reduce them as much as possible.

Our state has some good requirements.  A proper tattoo shop is cleaner than my home.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: tsrup on May 04, 2012, 03:14:51 AM
Quote from: Private Investigator on May 03, 2012, 08:47:09 AM
Is their an unofficial "CAP Talk" tattoo? I would think it would have something to symbolize the 'uniform thread' protocol we have in place here    :o

If there had to be a unifying symbol of CapTalk, it would be the "Death to the Triangle Thingy" logo.


Kind of has that "Death from above" ring to it right?...







right?....
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Майор Хаткевич on May 08, 2012, 08:07:37 PM
I know, a bit of a bump, but I just realized what will stay with me forever from CAP: My Award numbers.

It could be simple, just "XXXX Award ####", or it could be a graphic, with a good artist maybe even the nice ones that are on the certificates:

http://capmembers.com/media/cms/MITCHELL_FACT_SHEET_99C5E7C77646B.pdf (http://capmembers.com/media/cms/MITCHELL_FACT_SHEET_99C5E7C77646B.pdf)
http://capmembers.com/media/cms/EARHART_FACT_SHEET_4356C575EFAAC.pdf (http://capmembers.com/media/cms/EARHART_FACT_SHEET_4356C575EFAAC.pdf)

Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SarDragon on May 08, 2012, 08:40:31 PM
But what about us olde folks what's got no numbers?   ;)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 08:49:18 PM
I would just go with a couple of qual badges or something of the sort, or maybe patches. From the Army I have my CIB AASLT Wings 506 INF crest and 101st patch. We had one guy get his social and pretty much his dog tag info on his ribs and it looked pretty bad after a year, numbers and lettering when they are small tend to get fuzzy and mushy rather quickly.

I have thought of getting some dates that are really significant to me on my chest (dates that buddies have died in combat) but every time I think I am ready to do it, the fuzzy blur of that guys tattoo on his ribs comes back. And it's not that he went to a bad tattoo artist, he went to the same guy I go to. And even the artist told him it would likely blur. And the more active you are the faster it will blur.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Nathan on May 08, 2012, 09:11:05 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 08, 2012, 08:40:31 PM
But what about us olde folks what's got no numbers?   ;)

Then you already have your tattoo.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Grumpy on May 08, 2012, 09:13:09 PM
Quote from: Cool Mace on April 25, 2012, 07:07:12 PM
I was talking with a fellow member the other day about tattoos. And he mentioned he saw a picture of a CAP tattoo.
So that got me wondering if anyone here has a CAP tattoo?

A few of my AD buddies said that would be a "boy scout" tattoo, and dumb. But to me the point of a tattoo is something that means something to the person getting it.

So, anyone out there have any?

Tattoos are great and they really look good on you when you're a retired Grandparent say around 70 -75 years old.   :P
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Nathan on May 08, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 08, 2012, 09:13:09 PM

Tattoos are great and they really look good on you when you're a retired Grandparent say around 70 -75 years old.   :P

Depending on the quality of the tattoo, then they actually can turn out looking just fine. Our squadron does meetings as the American Legion, and a lot of the vets have military tattoos. They don't look weird at all.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: PHall on May 08, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 08, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 08, 2012, 09:13:09 PM

Tattoos are great and they really look good on you when you're a retired Grandparent say around 70 -75 years old.   :P

Depending on the quality of the tattoo, then they actually can turn out looking just fine. Our squadron does meetings as the American Legion, and a lot of the vets have military tattoos. They don't look weird at all.

Nathan, it's not the quality of the tattoo when you're 75, it's the quality of your skin.
Nature is not on your side here and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it either.
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Nope... There isn't much you can do about it... But by that time I'll probably be so far gone I will be surprised every time I look at them like... OH NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ARM HOW DID THAT GET THERE WHAT IS IT?!?!
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Nope... There isn't much you can do about it... But by that time I'll probably be so far gone I will be surprised every time I look at them like... OH NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ARM HOW DID THAT GET THERE WHAT IS IT?!?!

Yee gad, now you do have worried.  That 70 mark is just around the corner and I think I'm still here mentally, or at least hope I am.  😒
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SarDragon on May 09, 2012, 12:48:51 AM
Geez, Grump, are you really that olde?   ;)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: PHall on May 09, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Nope... There isn't much you can do about it... But by that time I'll probably be so far gone I will be surprised every time I look at them like... OH NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ARM HOW DID THAT GET THERE WHAT IS IT?!?!

Yee gad, now you do have worried.  That 70 mark is just around the corner and I think I'm still here mentally, or at least hope I am. 

Some folks may have a different opinion on that! >:D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: SarDragon on May 09, 2012, 01:04:41 AM
Ooh, harsh!  8)
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Cool Mace on May 09, 2012, 02:11:57 AM
Quote from: SarDragon on May 09, 2012, 01:04:41 AM
Ooh, harsh!  8)

Define "harsh" on CAPTalk... HAHA!
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 03:04:12 AM
Quote from: PHall on May 09, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Nope... There isn't much you can do about it... But by that time I'll probably be so far gone I will be surprised every time I look at them like... OH NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ARM HOW DID THAT GET THERE WHAT IS IT?!?!

Yee gad, now you do have worried.  That 70 mark is just around the corner and I think I'm still here mentally, or at least hope I am. 

Some folks may have a different opinion on that! >:D

Sure, pick on the old guy.  That's OK, I'll be at encampment too😉
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: PHall on May 09, 2012, 03:09:08 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 03:04:12 AM
Quote from: PHall on May 09, 2012, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: Grumpy on May 09, 2012, 12:18:40 AM
Quote from: manfredvonrichthofen on May 08, 2012, 11:17:04 PM
Nope... There isn't much you can do about it... But by that time I'll probably be so far gone I will be surprised every time I look at them like... OH NO WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY ARM HOW DID THAT GET THERE WHAT IS IT?!?!

Yee gad, now you do have worried.  That 70 mark is just around the corner and I think I'm still here mentally, or at least hope I am. 

Some folks may have a different opinion on that! >:D

Sure, pick on the old guy.  That's OK, I'll be at encampment too

I will too, but I don't have to sleep in the barracks. Ha! >:D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Persona non grata on May 09, 2012, 02:17:14 PM
Tats are a matter of self expresion or...........I drank too much and how did this get here.  If a hard charger wants one so be it.  I might chuckle a bit f I see it but I might just say to you "outstanding".  Just make sure that VG does not find out :D
Title: Re: CAP tattoos
Post by: Nathan on May 09, 2012, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: PHall on May 08, 2012, 10:49:55 PM
Nathan, it's not the quality of the tattoo when you're 75, it's the quality of your skin.
Nature is not on your side here and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it either.

I'm well aware of what tends to happen to people as they age.  :)

But depending on the quality, the kind of tattoo, and the individual physiology of how the person ages, it's not by any means certain that the tattoo is going to become a blurry mess at age 75. Some people simply don't have severe problems with that.

Besides, who exactly is a 75 year old individual having to worry about offending with a tattoo that doesn't look as good as it used to?  ;D