Hooyah, Hooah, or Hoorah?

[ZigZag911]

How about the battle cry of the Knights of the Round Table in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail":

RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

[EMT-83]

If CAP does indeed need a battle cry, my vote goes to "No more silly mandates on useless reports, safety briefings and endless administrivia".

However, that doesn't really roll off the tongue of a cadet coming off the obstacle course team-building exercise. 

[Spaceman3750]

"Per Diem!"

Closely followed by "Where's the doughnuts?".

[Flying Pig]

Hoorah = marine core
Hooyah = Navy Seals (No joke I googled it)
Hooah= army

HUA is considered the Airforce thing (even though its also used by the army), although notably it seems like United States Air Force Combat Controllers, Pararescue Jumpers, Tactical Air Control Party liked hooyah and used that.


I don't know, call me a square but war cries take away from professionalism...

I would consider it maybe, maybe, maybe, at encampment as an espirit de corps thing.

(maybe)

Its Marine Corps.  Not "core".  And its SEAL, not Seal.  Its an acronym, not a name.  And no, we dont need any battle cries. They only take away the professionalism when organizations with no need for them try to adopt them for no reason other than to have one.

Having spent 8 years in the Infantry, they have a  purpose there.  Quite honestly, the way the grunts and combat arms Marines barked "Hooorah" and the way a Data Entry Specialist working over at HQ "said" Hoorah were completely different.  The Marine Corps takes theirs very seriously and its engrained into Marine Corps history. Ive known some Marines that could send chills up your spine when they did it.

CAP, no need for it.

By the way, HUA = Head Up A-- 

[wuzafuzz]

Judging from the content of many CAPTalk threads, including some I've participated in, I submit that "WAAAAAAHHHHH!" would be our most appropriate battle cry.  Since that is clearly a non-starter perhaps we should simply avoid having one at all.

[Hawk200]

I think it's about time us CAPers decided on a battle cry. I've heatd both Hooah and Hoorah in my squadron, but those are Army and Marine Corps battle cries, respectively. I think Hooyah would be more apt. Despite its Navy usage, especially among SEALs, Battlefield airmen (Pararescue Jumpers, Combat Controllers, etc.) do use Hooyah. However I've never heard Hooyah used by any CAP member. Thoughts?

A non combatant organization does not need a "battle cry." And "hooah" isn't really a "battle cry." In the Army, it's pretty much used as a form of agreement or motivation, not as any cry to impending battle.

We don't have any need to officially adopt the saying. It's not used formally in any branch of service, any attempt at adopting it in CAP would give the impression of "wannabeism." (As in not, but wants to look like it.)

I've heard "hooah" used on occasion in CAP, but not as anything formal. " I've never heard "hooyah", which reminds of the word "hooey" a little too much, used in CAP to my recollection. "Oorah" occasionally, but usually by people either associated with the Marines, or wannabe Marines (not intended as an insult in this context, someone who intends to to enlist in the Marines, wants to be in the Marines.)

We don't need to focus on emulating PJs, CCTs, or SEALs. And PJs and CCTs aren't the only battlefield airmen.

[Persona non grata]

Lets say........prop spins..........Mission for America        not!!!!!!!


We dont need one

[AngelWings]

I love yelling HOOAH at the top of my lungs during PT when I'm close to the end of the run. I also say it has a way of motivating other cadets, or atleast a way to wake them up  .

[ol'fido]

I think we need a few more "SILENT PROFESSIONALS".

[Al Sayre]

How about "Safety! Safety! Kill! Kill! Kill!"   

[titanII]

Perhaps I should re-word my un-expectedly controversial question: of the three (Hooyah, Hooah, and Hoorah), which do you think would be most apt for use in the Civil Air Patrol? Which, if any, do you use?

[EMT-83]

Respectably,

As a  CAP cadet I prefer to say 'none of the above'.

Pretty much says it all.

[PA Guy]

Perhaps I should re-word my un-expectedly controversial question: of the three (Hooyah, Hooah, and Hoorah), which do you think would be most apt for use in the Civil Air Patrol? Which, if any, do you use?

None of the above.  We don't use them, they're silly.

[Hawk200]

Perhaps I should re-word my un-expectedly controversial question: of the three (Hooyah, Hooah, and Hoorah), which do you think would be most apt for use in the Civil Air Patrol? Which, if any, do you use?

It's not controversial, there is just little purpose to the concept and the thesis. It's useless minutia. What purpose does it serve to "adopt" one of the terms? What benefit is there?

As for being "apt", none of them really. It's one thing to use it, it's another thing to "formally adopt" it.

I use "hooah" occasionally because I'm currently Army. Don't use it around cadets much, but most of them know what it means. CAP needs to continue it's own identity, not try to adopt others.

I know you want to look hardcore, but just spewing military terms isn't gonna do it.

[PHall]

Perhaps I should re-word my un-expectedly controversial question: of the three (Hooyah, Hooah, and Hoorah), which do you think would be most apt for use in the Civil Air Patrol? Which, if any, do you use?

None of the above.  We don't use them, they're silly.

Even the Air Force doesn't use them, for the above reason.

[manfredvonrichthofen]

Old habits die hard. I am still stuck on hooah, the short Army style, that is about half a syllable. More like hoo. They are just short little sounds that all mean the same thing, will do, or got it. I actually prefer it to the other comment that you hear rather often of roger, which can come off rather sarcastic, or even be meant really sarcastically.

The long and short of it, use what you want to use, so long as it doesn't end up making things worse for you.

[AngelWings]

To put my feeling politically, it is not strictly forbidden. However, at the squadrons discrection, it can be frowned upon, or be used commonly.
I personally feel that it is a speech habit, not a good or bad one, it exsist neutrally. There are speech habits that people have to break (I fall into this category), but this clearly isn't one of them.

[MSG Mac]

These alleged "War Cries" are fairly new. When I joined the USMC in 1968 there was no such thing. When I joined the Army Reserve there was also no Hooah, until I was activated in 1997, when I had to remind the active duty troops I never took money for my carnal pleasures and was not a whore. As for being a "War Cry" I have found in three wars that the enemy generally shoots at the person and/or things that stand out and make a lot of noise.

[Ron1319]

I've heard some variation of that noise made at least on three separate occasions today here at CAWG competition.  I can't remember which one.  As a cadet I used to use different versions to mean different things. 

Hoot Rah! - An exclamation meaning I or we had done something really special and exciting
Hua - More like a grunt meaning that I was almost making fun of needing to say yes to something
Hoorah - We're going to go do something macho together.
Hooah - The lighter version of the previous one without the "r"

I generally use the last one when teaching swing dancing and I want to get the group's buy-in that we're going to do something that they find a bit intimidating.  It's mostly a joke in that setting to get them to buy in to trying it and typically someone asks if I was in the military. 

I do occasionally still say "hoot rah" rather quietly to myself while skiing when I proceed to do something where I could potentially kill myself.  I'm fairly certain that when I was a tad bit more immortal at the age of 17 or 18 I would do something similar, sometimes a bit louder.

If you're not laughing at this point, you are seriously misreading this post and I suggest you start over and imagine me laughing so hard I'm actually crying while typing this.  Perhaps that's related to my "I work evenings" sleep schedule combined with needing to transport cadets to breakfast at 7am this (yesterday) morning.  Fortunately, we have extra seniors on hand and I have opted out of that duty tomorrow in favor of being safe to drive home.

[Rocketguy]

Personally I like "Oorah". not sure why because I have not really had much direct contact with any of the military branches, but it just sounds smoother. My Squadron Commander likes HUA. As for it not being an acronym, the way I learned it, it stands for "Heard, Understood, Accomplished".