Alaska C-172S crash into buildings (fatal)

[Pace]

PM sent.

To everyone else, please do not nuke your posts. If OPSEC becomes an issue, PM an admin or mod, and we'll review the request. Removing parts or all of a post is a violation of the MCoC.

Don't play with your food.

Don't pick your nose in public.

Make sure to wash your hands after you use the bathroom.

Play nice.

Did I miss any?

[coming down from the soap box]

[goblin]

I don't think OPSEC is a player here.

[Pace]

It's not. It was the justification used to nuke posts. I was just throwing that out there.

[goblin]

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[Paul_AK]

Don't play with your food.

Don't pick your nose in public.

Instructions unclear, NHQ's gonna have to publish guidance for that.

[PHall]

We got the email saying not to discuss this after I made my posts.

But thanks for pointing out the forum's rules.  We need guys such as you in CAP, too.

Why did you even think that this was a good thing to post about? 
And the request from Headquarters to not post about this should have not been a surprise.

[SarDragon]

We got the email saying not to discuss this after I made my posts.

But thanks for pointing out the forum's rules.  We need guys such as you in CAP, too.

Why did you even think that this was a good thing to post about? 
And the request from Headquarters to not post about this should have not been a surprise.

And that Q will hang out there unanswered, forever, since tony has been given the ban hammer.

[PHall]

We got the email saying not to discuss this after I made my posts.

But thanks for pointing out the forum's rules.  We need guys such as you in CAP, too.

Why did you even think that this was a good thing to post about? 
And the request from Headquarters to not post about this should have not been a surprise.

And that Q will hang out there unanswered, forever, since tony has been given the ban hammer.

Along with WhiteWings66.  Huummm, what are the odds?

[SarDragon]

100%. Same chucklehead.

[Paul_AK]

Well, at least there're a couple of folks out there taking the time to explain a little about CAP to the wondering masses.

http://www.ktva.com/what-is-the-civil-air-patrol-an-inside-look-at-the-organizations-role-249/

http://www.ktuu.com/news/news/civil-air-patrol-member-explains-air-force-auxiliarys-protocols/37220288

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I've read a couple sites that suggest the aircraft was "stolen."

Ah... media. 

[baronet68]

Well, at least there're a couple of folks out there taking the time to explain a little about CAP to the wondering masses.

http://www.ktva.com/what-is-the-civil-air-patrol-an-inside-look-at-the-organizations-role-249/

Wow, 600,000 members???

Otherwise, I think this is a very nicely done story.

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http://news.yahoo.com/family-spokeswoman-alaska-plane-crash-suicide-185628960.html?nf=1

According to this, a family spokesperson said it was suicide.

[PHall]

http://news.yahoo.com/family-spokeswoman-alaska-plane-crash-suicide-185628960.html?nf=1

According to this, a family spokesperson said it was suicide.

What part of please do not post about this on social media did you not understand?

[Panzerbjorn]

http://news.yahoo.com/family-spokeswoman-alaska-plane-crash-suicide-185628960.html?nf=1

According to this, a family spokesperson said it was suicide.

What part of please do not post about this on social media did you not understand?

The part about simply posting a link to a relevant news story?  Or would you rather see the story the National Chief of Staff posted on social media?

It's not CAP members speculating.  It's simply posting a link to a news story.

[lordmonar]

I'm kind of ashamed I got to say this on this forum.

Guys.

CAP Talk is an unofficial CAP forum.

Each and everyone of use can be quoted by a news agency as a "Civil Air Patrol Official".    And so just like we all learned in OPSEC training and GES training we should refrain from commenting unless specifically cleared by the PAO or Commander.

Ergo....let's not even link and add comments to this topic.

Blue Skies to the friends and family of the CAP member.   Good luck to the investigative team.

Nothing more needs to be said.

[Live2Learn]

In other words:

If you (or I) feel compelled to share information, a link, or just the wisdom of a lifetime, do it on www.aopa.org/Forums  (the 'red board') or elsewhere.  Thank you Lord M and others for your very excellent advice.

Like other threads on the topic, IMHO, this too should be locked.  We'll have plenty of opportunity to discuss lessons learned once the investigators have done their job.

[Fubar]

It's very sad a person elected to take his own life. While there is some solace in that nobody else was injured or killed, it's a sad day for his family, friends, and community.

I'm glad CAP has been doing everything it can to help the authorities piece together what happened. I would expect nothing less from our organization.

[umpirecali]

I'm kind of ashamed I got to say this on this forum.

Guys.

CAP Talk is an unofficial CAP forum.

Each and everyone of use can be quoted by a news agency as a "Civil Air Patrol Official".    And so just like we all learned in OPSEC training and GES training we should refrain from commenting unless specifically cleared by the PAO or Commander.

Ergo....let's not even link and add comments to this topic.

Blue Skies to the friends and family of the CAP member.   Good luck to the investigative team.

Nothing more needs to be said.

ummm, the information is now public.  They won't quote the CAP talk board they'll quote the family spokesman.  Geeesh, some people need to learn what OPSEC means.  OPSEC doesn't mean potentially embarrassing.  There is no privileged information being discussed here. No one here is a member of the NTSB or the CAP IG investigating the crash. We aren't giving away the combination to the hangar, radio frequencies, or military protocol.  We are discussing a particularly relevant CAP related news story.  This was not even speculation, this was sharing information.  It might not be fact yet, but it is valuable information.  Since I gave my December safety briefing on holiday depression and signs of suicide, I hereby declare this topic to be relevant.

[arajca]

I've read a couple sites that suggest the aircraft was "stolen."

Ah... media. 

Never thought I'd be defending a media assumption, but in general, "unauthorized use" = "stolen". While the nuances may differ, for the public, the terms are equivalent.