New 39-1

[SarDragon]

In order to do that, they need to stop messing with the uniform.

[Eclipse]

Multiform.

[lordmonar]

I tend to agree with Bob: Our regulations and other pubs need to be more dynamic, less monolithic.

Waiting 7 years for a legitimately updated uniform manual is silly.. And handing someone the uniform manual and 5 pages of ICLs (not "page insert changes") is just... silly too!

The Air Force went 7 years before updating their uniform manual.

We're just doing what Big Blue taught us to do!

Back in the 35-10 days it was longer then that!  Heck the BDU's were NEVER in 35-10..let alone the Air Crew Style Name Tapes, and the switch back...we got a how new AFI system first!

[Devil Doc]

Cows? There are cows?

COW
C O W EI EI O, Dang Nabit

[a2capt]

spell cow

[38ffems]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

[ol'fido]

spell cow

I spelled it B-E-E-F. 

[Panache]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

Still waiting for the CAPTalk servers to catch on fire.

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

I have been gone from this site for some time. Does anyone know if there will be a new 39-1 anytime soon? Thank you in advance and God Bless.

Chaplain, a bit of divine intervention on the matter wouldn't go amiss.

Until then, this is the best date I can give you:

Johnny Mathis - 12th of Never

[RiverAux]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

When you hear that a new 39-1 is coming soon enough times you don't get very excited about hearing it again. 

[Papabird]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

When you hear that a new 39-1 is coming soon enough times you don't get very excited about hearing it again.

MG Carr stated that "professional pictures" still need to be taken.  So given that this message may have been written before the long weekend, that is still not a lot of time to get that done to meet his own goal of out by the end of the year.

Still, I don't want my skin color to match CAP ultramarine blue, so I won't hold my breath.   

[NIN]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

When you hear that a new 39-1 is coming soon enough times you don't get very excited about hearing it again.

I have it on pretty good authority that the draft was going to be published yesterday until it was decided that without the photos being complete it would be a moot point.

[Papabird]

I have it on pretty good authority that the draft was going to be published yesterday until it was decided that without the photos being complete it would be a moot point.

:clap: I will wait for that.  LOL

[a2capt]

It ABsolUtely would have not been a moot point.

.. it's a -DRAFT-

Or so they claim .. it was to be able in draft first.

Oh well.

[arajca]

Surprised no one has brought up the fact that the new 39-1 was mentioned in the message from National Commander.

When you hear that a new 39-1 is coming soon enough times you don't get very excited about hearing it again.

I have it on pretty good authority that the draft was going to be published yesterday until it was decided that without the photos being complete it would be a moot point.

How long does it take to get the photos? I'm sure if they sent pointed requests to a few units say we need a cadet/senior in ****** uniform done according to <this> standard and the photo must have a plain white/grey/pink/whatever color background and be #Mpixel, you'd have them in a week.

[Eclipse]

And why use people?  All the examples should be on mannequins to avoid personalities and odd facial expressions, etc.

[a2capt]

And why use people?  All the examples should be on mannequins to avoid personalities and odd facial expressions, etc.

.. like the smiley guy in the current one?

How long does it take to get the photos?

If the manual has revisions, as it's purported to .. it's very likely that those drafting it are probably the only ones that may have the needed items to make some of these uniform photos. At least, making them in the -intended- mannor.

[Ned]

And now we can safely conclude that the "most thankless job" in CAP is going to be creating the photographs to illustrate the new manual.  And finding the "most thankless job" in CAP is actually a pretty tough competition.

The preparation for the photos is daunting, regardless of whether we use models or mannequins.  The photographer has to have ready access to all the possible uniform combinations and most of the badges and insignia, and far more importantly, the detailed knowledge of a uniform wonk to get every detail perfectly.  We can be sure that each of dozens of detailed photographs will be minutely examined by experts with magnifying glasses looking for every possible error.

If the photography team gets every single detail right, we will just accept it as normal job performance.  But get just one detail wrong out of 30 or 40 possible minute details in a typical photo, CAPTalk will go wild . . . .

When I make a typo in a regulation or pamphlet, it is an easy fix.  Re-shooting a photograph because of a ribbon out of sequence will take far more time and effort.

We collectively owe the photography team a drink (or two) for just undertaking  the "most thankless job in CAP."

[jeders]

We collectively owe the photography team a drink (or two) for just undertaking  the "most thankless job in CAP."

Absolutely.

But, why not just release the draft publication with empty boxes of place of the photos and then release the photos as a separate item a week or two later? Gives the membership time to digest the new uniform issues and find typos in the manual while giving the photo team a little more time to get everything perfect. Just a thought.

[Storm Chaser]

And why use people?  All the examples should be on mannequins to avoid personalities and odd facial expressions, etc.

The Air Force used real people, but cropped their heads for the uniform photographs on its most recent revision of AFI 36-2903. It think the pictures look just fine.