What happens to National Commander after term?

[atlantis737]

Hello all,

I've never seen anything about former Nat'l Commanders or Vice Commanders doing anything after leaving their NHQ positions.  Are they required to leave CAP after their term, or do most of them voluntarily retire from the program?

Just curious.  I'd love to hear stories about former Nat'l CC/VC's doing interesting things after their term.

[JeffDG]

Maj Gen Courter has remained active, particularly with IACE IIRC.

[lordmonar]

The former national commanders have a semi offical committee that they sit on and sometimes advise the sitting national commander.

Most former national commanders do the right thing and fade into the back ground for a time letting the new guy take over and do his thing.

Gen Courter was the CAP rep to the IACE Committee and IIRC she was the chair of that committee.

The previous two national commanders left office in less then stellar circumstances and both left CAP IIRC.

[Eclipse]

Most stay active on one level or another serving on various boards, going back to their wings
or regions, etc.

There are some relatively recent restrictions in place now that limit where former HEADCAPs can
serve - for example they are ineligible to serve on the BOG for 6 years.

[JC004]

I thought the advisory committee of former commanders was just the polite name for the glue factory...

I'd imagine after being National Commander, and all the volunteer hours it requires, you're pretty tired.  It's a really serious commitment, and takes a lot out of someone.  It's best for someone who's retired.

[MSG Mac]

MG Wheless served as the MER Legal Officer and was brought up to National in the same capacity.
BG Cass is a Group Chaplain in the Tampa Bay area
BG Anderson served on the BofG and as President of the Spaatz Association

[atlantis737]

Out of curiosity, could a former National Commander/Vice Commander go back and serve as a Squadron/Group/Wing Commander?

[LTCinSWR]

I haven't seen anything in the regs that would prohibit it, but why would they want to? This may be projection, but if I in that position, I would be ready for an advisory role. I certainly wouldn't do anything to create the appearance of undermining my successor.

[LTCinSWR]

BG Anderson served on the BofG and as President of the Spaatz Association

General Anderson was also elected to the Virginia House of Delegates after retiring from the Air Force.
http://richanderson.com/about/

[Afbrat52]

Are the former National Commanders demoted after their terms?

[The CyBorg is destroyed]

Are the former National Commanders demoted after their terms?

No.  Why should they be, unless they've done something very egregious, like the former Generalissimo who almost pulled CAP into the toilet, hook, line and stinker?

General Courter still has her two stars.

General Anderson still has his star (he's also a retired Air Force Colonel, I believe).

[ColonelJack]

Are the former National Commanders demoted after their terms?

No.  Why should they be, unless they've done something very egregious, like the former Generalissimo who almost pulled CAP into the toilet, hook, line and stinker?

General Courter still has her two stars.

General Anderson still has his star (he's also a retired Air Force Colonel, I believe).

It's not automatic, though.  The BoG has to approve the rank as permanent following the conclusion of their terms.

For instance, General Courter's first National CV, who served before General Carr; when he (and I'm so sorry that, due to a senior moment, his name escapes me) was denied re-election, the BoG reduced him back to colonel.  It's not a rubber stamp.

Oh, and Cyborg -- "hook, line and stinker?"  I see what you did there ... 

Jack

[AlphaSigOU]

Outgoing national commanders also receive life membership in CAP.

[LTCinSWR]

Outgoing national commanders also receive life membership in CAP.

That too requires a vote. Usually they do, with some glaring exceptions.

[dwb]

If I'm ever CAP/CC, I'm going to travel around the country and attend random squadron meetings with no notice. Just slip in the back of a classroom while an unsuspecting cadet NCO is teaching new cadets about the chain of command.

When the NCO asks the room "does anyone know who the national commander is?" I'll jump up and say THIS GUY!!

It could happen.

[LTCinSWR]

If I'm ever CAP/CC, I'm going to travel around the country and attend random squadron meetings with no notice. Just slip in the back of a classroom while an unsuspecting cadet NCO is teaching new cadets about the chain of command.

When the NCO asks the room "does anyone know who the national commander is?" I'll jump up and say THIS GUY!!

It could happen.

That's just mean...

[Afbrat52]

DWB,

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[RiverAux]

If I'm ever CAP/CC, I'm going to travel around the country and attend random squadron meetings with no notice. Just slip in the back of a classroom while an unsuspecting cadet NCO is teaching new cadets about the chain of command.

When the NCO asks the room "does anyone know who the national commander is?" I'll jump up and say THIS GUY!!

It could happen.

The stars might give you away....

[JeffDG]

If I'm ever CAP/CC, I'm going to travel around the country and attend random squadron meetings with no notice. Just slip in the back of a classroom while an unsuspecting cadet NCO is teaching new cadets about the chain of command.

When the NCO asks the room "does anyone know who the national commander is?" I'll jump up and say THIS GUY!!

It could happen.

The stars might give you away....

Just wear a blue polo.

[JacobAnn]

Are the former National Commanders demoted after their terms?

No.  Why should they be, unless they've done something very egregious, like the former Generalissimo who almost pulled CAP into the toilet, hook, line and stinker?

General Courter still has her two stars.

General Anderson still has his star (he's also a retired Air Force Colonel, I believe).

For instance, General Courter's first National CV, who served before General Carr; when he (and I'm so sorry that, due to a senior moment, his name escapes me) was denied re-election, the BoG reduced him back to colonel.

Jack

Reggie Chitwood