Soliciting for Donations for Personal

Started by capchick121, August 24, 2016, 12:50:11 PM

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Damron

Quote from: Eclipse on August 25, 2016, 04:38:54 AM
Quote from: Damron on August 25, 2016, 04:30:07 AM
Quote from: Eclipse on August 25, 2016, 03:43:23 AM
To some extent, it's not even gray - 173-4 explicitly prohibits the wear of USAF-Style uniforms by adults during any fund raising, personal or otherwise.

"2. No Air Force Involvement. It is important that no suggestions or inference be made in
any CAP fund-raising program that the Air Force is involved or would benefit. Therefore, wear
of the Air Force-style CAP uniform in fund raising activities is limited to cadets.
Advertising and
promotional matter should clearly identify CAP as a distinct organization from the Air Force.
(See also paragraph 15f.)"

173-4 refers to CAP fundraising.  You have chosen to to use the words "personal or otherwise".

So you'd assert that it's verboten to be in a USAF-style uniform with your hand out when the money comes
back to CAP, but would be OK if the money goes to the member?

No, I've asserted that 173-4 applies to CAP fundraising.  Beyond that, I've encouraged the counsel of CAP legal officers in such matters.


JC004

This has been done for NCSAs a whole bunch of times, and that isn't going to go away, so that is something national should look into.  It seems appropriate to include such photos if a cadet is fundraising, say, to go do IACE.

Damron

Quote from: Eclipse on August 25, 2016, 03:43:23 AM
To some extent, it's not even gray - 173-4 explicitly prohibits the wear of USAF-Style uniforms by adults during any fund raising, personal or otherwise.

"2. No Air Force Involvement. It is important that no suggestions or inference be made in
any CAP fund-raising program that the Air Force is involved or would benefit. Therefore, wear
of the Air Force-style CAP uniform in fund raising activities is limited to cadets.
Advertising and
promotional matter should clearly identify CAP as a distinct organization from the Air Force.
(See also paragraph 15f.)"

I didn't notice the word "adult" in your post.  You are correct in asserting that adults are precluded from wearing AF-style uniforms in fundraising activities. 

FW

Quote from: JC004 on August 25, 2016, 05:26:43 AM
This has been done for NCSAs a whole bunch of times, and that isn't going to go away, so that is something national should look into.  It seems appropriate to include such photos if a cadet is fundraising, say, to go do IACE.

No one is saying we can't fund-raise for NCSAs, Scholarships, etc; with cadets in uniform.  This is quite acceptable, however no one can fund raise with the hope of personally profiting from the effort; either by getting a percentage of the proceeds, or the whole sum.  The responsibility figuring it out falls on the wing commander (or above).  The appropriate commander will consult with legal counsel before making the decision. 
Not getting permission is a good way to become a former member... >:D