Ground team uniform

[isuhawkeye]

I understand that several wings have adopted a uniform outside of 39-1 specifically for ground team use.  I don't want to argue the appropriateness, of this uniform.  I am simply interested in the wing supliments that authorize the uniform, and if available a picture of said uniforms.

Thanks

[SarDragon]

CAWG Uniform supplement



This may be prior to the current spec for blue trousers.

[JayT]

Why is there a cadet without a vest in that photo?

[SarDragon]

She was closely supervised, and we never left the road. Actually, we never got much farther apart than what you see in the pic. I think there were two others in the group, one of whom was taking the picture, and the other stayed in the vehicle to monitor the radios.

[jimmydeanno]

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

[mikeylikey]

^   

[alamrcn]

I am simply interested in the wing supliments that authorize the uniform

I have all of the Wing 39-1 Supliments that I could find at this website:
http://www.incountry.us/cappatches/library.html

If anyone knows of others available in electronic form (old or new), please let me know!

-Ace

[isuhawkeye]

Thanks,

I understand that Colorado once had a similar uniform.  Is that still the case?

[Major Lord]

If there was a water cooler and a shovel in that picture, I would say it was the militant arm of CALTRANS.....

Major Lord

[PHall]

If there was a water cooler and a shovel in that picture, I would say it was the militant arm of CALTRANS.....

Major Lord

Couldn't be CalTrans, they're all standing and awake plus there's no orange trash bags!

[arajca]

Thanks,

I understand that Colorado once had a similar uniform.  Is that still the case?

No. That supplement was pulled a couple years ago.

[SarDragon]

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

And what was that supposed to mean?

[JayT]

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

And what was that supposed to mean?

Isn't it a little odd that you guys ago out of your way to have a high viz uniform, but existing requirements for a safety vest (a cheap, regulation high viz item) isn't enforced?

[ddelaney103]

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth...

And what was that supposed to mean?

I don't know about him, but I don't see anything in CAPM 39-1 saying Wing Commanders can create new uniforms out of whole cloth.  I thought Region was supposed to slap down Wings when they came out with wacky uniforms.

Can NV authorize DCU/ABU's for their troops because it's too hot to wear dark uniforms?  Can we authorize knee/elbow pads and bike helmets as a "safety measure" for drill?  When do we just toss the idea of uniformity out the window?

[mikeylikey]

^ You sir "hit the nail on the head".  NHQ has been way to "allowing" of Wing Specific Supplements.  One CAP right?  Lets make it that ALL uniform additions, exclusions need to to go to a NHQ uniform board, not the Wing King or Region Commander only! 

[isuhawkeye]

ok. let's not drift. 

I don't want this thread to talk about the validity of these policies.  I am simply looking to see what's out there

[isuhawkeye]

so california still has this uniform oprion and colorado use to have something similar. 

anyone else

[mikeylikey]

^ Does IOWA have anything different than whats listed?  I am too curious.

I know PAWG had an on line document years ago, but with the change to a new website.....someone (COLGAN) has failed to keep it on there.  It was basically orange everything, ranger tabs, cold weather gear of somesort, and possibly metal rank somewhere on the uniform.  COLGAN.......get on it!

[mikeylikey]

OK. let's not drift. 

I don't want this thread to talk about the validity of these policies.  I am simply looking to see what's out there

Sorry......

I allow the wear of anything that keeps a person warm in Penna when the temp falls between -5 and 34.  Silly not to do that.  So we may not be uniform, but we are WARM.  However, I do not deviate on prescribed uniforms for summer months as it is not that HOT in PA.  But that is my unit, and not a Wing supplement.  Sorry again

[isuhawkeye]

iowa does not have any supliments to 39-1.

I do however have a nice heavy orange safety vest which happens to have long sleeves and is made of fleece