Cadet Moustache??

Started by capchiro, October 16, 2010, 06:59:38 PM

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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: Spaceman3750 on October 19, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 19, 2010, 06:48:14 PMI may look stupid (or not) but we can't regulate stupid.

Some days I wonder if you can fix it either  :angel:

Navy did just fine by getting rid of the beards.

Of course, some folks get to grow "beards" because shaving irritates their skin...saw a lot of that at Great Lakes on the NTC Side.

DakRadz

They burn the hair off of a cow's udders on farms (thanks Dirty Jobs!)- think that could be utilized for recruits/cadets? >:D

SarDragon

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on October 20, 2010, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on October 19, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 19, 2010, 06:48:14 PMI may look stupid (or not) but we can't regulate stupid.

Some days I wonder if you can fix it either  :angel:

Navy did just fine by getting rid of the beards.

Easy for you to say. You weren't there. My view differs significantly.

QuoteOf course, some folks get to grow "beards" because shaving irritates their skin...saw a lot of that at Great Lakes on the NTC Side.

And there are very specific standards for those "beards". Shaving irritates my face, too, but I don't fit into their criteria for not shaving.
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Grumpy

Quote from: Hawk200 on October 16, 2010, 08:15:35 PM
Quote from: HGjunkie on October 16, 2010, 07:29:26 PM
It doesn't specify wether or not cadets can wear a moustache.
The grooming standards for mustaches are for male members. The manual doesn't differentiate between cadets and seniors.

It would sure be interesting to see a female member with a musstache.  Yuck! 

EMT-83

Let me see if I can find a picture of my mother-in-law.

Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: SarDragon on October 20, 2010, 03:12:03 AM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on October 20, 2010, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on October 19, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 19, 2010, 06:48:14 PMI may look stupid (or not) but we can't regulate stupid.

Some days I wonder if you can fix it either  :angel:

Navy did just fine by getting rid of the beards.

Easy for you to say. You weren't there. My view differs significantly.

QuoteOf course, some folks get to grow "beards" because shaving irritates their skin...saw a lot of that at Great Lakes on the NTC Side.

And there are very specific standards for those "beards". Shaving irritates my face, too, but I don't fit into their criteria for not shaving.

I saw a lot of young guys who were just out of RTC with "beards" because their skin is too sensitive for shaving. Again, the reason for doing away with the beards were folks who can't grow a beard if their life depended on it.

HGjunkie

Quote from: EMT-83 on October 20, 2010, 12:28:57 PM
Let me see if I can find a picture of my mother-in-law.
DO NOT WANT.  ;D
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SarDragon

Quote from: USAFaux2004 on October 20, 2010, 02:04:32 PM
Quote from: SarDragon on October 20, 2010, 03:12:03 AM
Quote from: USAFaux2004 on October 20, 2010, 03:00:59 AM
Quote from: Spaceman3750 on October 19, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
Quote from: lordmonar on October 19, 2010, 06:48:14 PMI may look stupid (or not) but we can't regulate stupid.

Some days I wonder if you can fix it either  :angel:

Navy did just fine by getting rid of the beards.

Easy for you to say. You weren't there. My view differs significantly.

QuoteOf course, some folks get to grow "beards" because shaving irritates their skin...saw a lot of that at Great Lakes on the NTC Side.

And there are very specific standards for those "beards". Shaving irritates my face, too, but I don't fit into their criteria for not shaving.

I saw a lot of young guys who were just out of RTC with "beards" because their skin is too sensitive for shaving. Again, the reason for doing away with the beards were folks who can't grow a beard if their life depended on it.

Taken to PM.
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Майор Хаткевич

It was? I received no PM if so.

SarDragon

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Let me look.


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Майор Хаткевич

Quote from: SarDragon on October 20, 2010, 10:13:45 PM
Let me look.


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Sent again. The first one went out at 13:07 local.

Received both a few hours apart. Server lag...

DavidB

Ok

My Group Commander is an old navy guy and we always give him a hard time about this in not the navy we follow air force rules, even though we are the senior service.  As far as mustache for cadets they are not forbidden by the regulation per CAPR39-1:

Mustache must be neatly trimmed.  Must not extend downward beyond the lip line of the upper lip or extend sideways beyond a vertical line drawn upward from the corner of the mouth.

now deciding whats neatly trimmed and whats not is subjective.
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Hawk200

Quote from: DavidB on October 28, 2010, 12:28:06 AMnow deciding whats neatly trimmed and whats not is subjective.
Not really. People know what a badly trimmed mustache looks like just as easily as a bad haircut. It may take a while for some people to learn it, but it's not difficult.

SarDragon

Additionally, three neatly trimmed, but disconnected patches of hair does not a proper moustache make.
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Hawk200

Quote from: SarDragon on October 28, 2010, 03:45:29 AM
Additionally, three neatly trimmed, but disconnected patches of hair does not a proper moustache make.
Agreed. Either you've got the hair or you don't.

Spaceman3750

(Pay attention only to the moustache part)


This is an OK moustache (minus the rest of the facial hair).



This moustache is NOT ok for CAP purposes.

Use your best judgment in between.

SarDragon

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SarDragon

Quote from: Spaceman3750 on October 28, 2010, 04:01:59 AM
(Pay attention only to the moustache part)


This is an OK moustache (minus the rest of the facial hair).

That is NOT an OK moustache for CAP purposes. It extends too far beyond the corners of the mouth.
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Eclipse

Actually that mustache is not ok, as the edges extend below the lip.

Beat me to it...

"That Others May Zoom"

SarDragon

Oh, it's not just the below the lip part. It's way too wide.

It "will not extend downward beyond the lip line of the upper lip or extend sideways beyond a vertical line drawn upward from the corner of the mouth."
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