Quote from: RogueLeader on August 29, 2010, 01:58:09 AM
Can we be CLS (Combat Life Saver) Trainingfor Seniors?  Its a 40hr class that has the Blood-borne patogens, 1st aid, with some really cool training with giving IVs and nose hoses.  I learned it all in the RM.  That way we could be more "high speed- low drag".


JK btw

CLS has been updated to what is called TCCC (Tactical Combat Casualty Care) and it includes all that plus Chest Decompressions.  Great class.

^ last I heard also is that they took out the needle stick. . .
<shudder>

Quote from: ltdaubach on August 27, 2010, 08:12:29 PM
I'm finding a common theme with all of these threads on this site.  Everyone likes to argue about everything.  To answer the question that was first asked. you must be a EMT-B; EMT-I; EMT-P to wear the EMT badge.  This means that you must be NREMT registered.  As being a field or squadron medic.  There is really no such thing.  At big activities there are "Medical Officers" that treat CAP members when they become injured.  But when EMTs go on Ground Teams and come up on a injured person, you have a duty to act.  You are trained to help persons in medical need while waiting to get them to hospital care.  You are able to help within your training.  All things that you will learn when you go through EMT school.

NREMT is a Private Organization that just verifies training and education through a certification process, Some states require this credentialing process, Some States May accept it, and Some states don't.  There is absolutely no requirement in my state to even know what national registry is until you get to the Paramedic Level.  My State does not offer a State Paramedic exam, so you must go through the National Registry exam to get certified through reciprocity.  Once you are certified you are no longer required to maintain your membership in this professional club.

As a Member of Civil Air Patrol, I do not have a DUTY TO ACT.  My duty to act only extends to my Emergency Medical Services Agency paid employer or any EMS volunteer employer where I am required to be on call.  First, CAP is not an authorized EMS agency therefore I can not provide EMS level care under their auspices.  When Volunteering with CAP I may serve in multiple different possible roles none of which is Paramedic, therefore no duty to act or duty to respond.  This is a Medical Legal issue that most people don't understand.  They often confuse duty to act with a self ethical responsibility to do something.  That being said under the umbrella of CAP, I am bound my CAP policy regarding this.  Anything I do outside of policy is done so at my own peril, I will not be covered by CAP's insurance carrier if I do something wrong.  I am not covered by my employers insurance carrier because I do not have a duty to Act. That would make me personally responsible for my actions that clearly violated policy making me liable, placing my livelihood and my family's well being at risk and that is my first and foremost ethical responsibility.

While in CAP, if an emergency medical situation arises, I will provide immediate care authorized by CAP (read: CPR and First Aid) and believe me when I say, I can call 911 with the best of 'em.

Quote from: RogueLeader on August 29, 2010, 02:31:00 AM
^ last I heard also is that they took out the needle stick. . .
<shudder>

They did...people in the fog of war were getting too hung up on starting the IV rather than placing a tourniquet stopping serious bleeding.  They were starting great IV's in guys that were perfectly dead.

QuoteNREMT is a Private Organization that just verifies training and education through a certification process,

Really no different than NASAR self-appointing themselves as the be-all and end-all of SAR certification.  Heck CAP could start certifying SAR quals for non-CAP members and it would be just as official and formal as NASAR. 

Quote from: RiverAux on August 29, 2010, 03:13:16 AM

QuoteNREMT is a Private Organization that just verifies training and education through a certification process,

Really no different than NASAR self-appointing themselves as the be-all and end-all of SAR certification.  Heck CAP could start certifying SAR quals for non-CAP members and it would be just as official and formal as NASAR.

Pretty Close, except NREMT Meets Basic US Department of Transportation Guidelines for EMT's at all levels, where correct me if I'm wrong NASAR just uses Industry accepted standards...but Yes, Ultimately the same point